Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 18, 2015, 07:31:32 PM

Quote from: nextgencoin on February 18, 2015, 06:57:46 PM

I mean if I show you an ipad and say it never had a creator it just simply exists I'm sure you would say that's an insane proposition considering the complexity and order involved in its design.

Creator = someone who designed it or someone who assembled it?

I would be pretty impressed with either wouldn't you? Forgeting semantics what do you see as different? Assembled suggests another God created it and he just got called in to coordinate things. Or do you mean he created the world and sort of walked away to let it run its course. If so no I believe God is a living God who engages with his creation.

Its a brain twister but God is separate from creation he just is and always was, Yahweh the most common name given to God in the Torah means 'he who creates'.