Quote from: dogie on February 26, 2015, 11:34:05 PM

Quote from: Spondoolies-Tech on February 26, 2015, 10:49:40 PM

Quote from: dogie on February 26, 2015, 10:45:11 PM

Quote from: Spondoolies-Tech on February 26, 2015, 10:39:18 PM

Quote from: dogie on February 26, 2015, 10:37:07 PM

Quote from: Spondoolies-Tech on February 26, 2015, 10:31:29 PM

I've written endless times that we won't take preorders on our 3rd gen.

But by your own admission, you require additional funding in order to make that happen. So your business model hasn't yet been proven to be able to support non preorders. +many more NDA'ed things I want to say.

WTF it has to do with the fact that we don't take preorders now?
We have took preorders for over 4 months.

Your thread is misleading and hurt our business.

Quote from: dogie

Preorders?
Preorders are extremely bad for the industry and put all the financial risk on the buyer. This criterion does not act as a snapshot, but a longer term (both past and future) "does
this company engage in preorders". A company who's business model relies on preorders to fund development and new generations is still considered to utilise preorders even if
they intermediately sell some products from stock. Transitional scores may be used when companies have promised the exclusion of preorders but have yet to prove their business model can operate without them.

1) You're business model has not been proven to support non preorders
2) You're business model - by your own admission - can not support preorders without further investment... +NDA'ed stuff
3) Therefore until its proven [and in your case you raise investment], you get a transitional score.

What you don't say is that you changed your own criteria especially for us.
In October listing you didn't have them.
In December listing you add them.

What was the change? We stopped taking preorders.

Dogie, you're unethical hypocrate. I'm starting to think that you punish us because of our non related private dispute.

The criteria did not change, nor the way that I enforce it. In December I added more descriptive text to all the criterion so I didn't have to keep repeating myself throughout the thread - the descriptions act as an FAQ. For example I was asked what was company size about 20 times which you can search for in this thread.

Exactly what am I a hypocrite about?

Quote from: Spondoolies-Tech on February 26, 2015, 10:52:31 PM

I'm keeping my word. You keep trying to drag me into our private dispute.
I believe that it's another unetical behavior on your part.
You're misusing this thread for your own private agenda.

Our dispute is only private because you're hiding behind an NDA. The actual content of the dispute is actually very relevant to the thread because it highlights ethical attitudes. Still, its not yet represented in this thread at all.

At the same time, you're the one attempting to misuse this thread for your own [different to the 'private dispute'] agenda, which again I can't mention in detail because its behind an NDA. Am I wrong? There is no ulterior motive for you wanting your rating higher other than "it hurts sales"?

Woke up.
Outright lies and inaccuracies. At least you admit you cooked the criteria in December. "In December I added more descriptive text" ...
I'll answer only the last question, because you're very exhausting and dealing with you is not the right way to start a productive day.

I'm caring about stating that our company takes pre-orders which is simply outright lie. A prospect customer reading your thread getting the WRONG info, which we need later to correct.
"But Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide" says that you're taking pre-orders. What's going on ?" - Try to explain your convoluted BS to a newcomer.
I have compromise: Give us prefect score on not taking pre-orders, give us penalty on "unspecified under NDA dispute with Dogie"

You're a joke.