Quote from: Prohealer on February 28, 2015, 12:15:44 PM

Quote from: mprep on February 28, 2015, 11:51:47 AM

They also forgot to mention what atrocities they committed during their "good" occupation like the Great Purge (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge),

How many people was arrested? Oh, 1.5 million according to the wikipedia. Here is global research for you about the USA. http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-prison-population-dwarfs-that-of-other-nations/8801
It has 751 people in prison or jail for every 100,000 in population. So, if population of USA is 320 million and it has 751 in prison or jail for every 100,000 it means that 2.4 million people are sitting nowadays in USA.. Got it? 1.5 vs. 2.4

So why the time when 1.5 million people are arested in USSR called "Great Purge" and the same situation in USA, when the number of people is 2.4 million, called democracy? What is that? Double standards?

Quote from: mprep on February 28, 2015, 11:51:47 AM

establishing and running labor camps where many deported citizens where living in unbearble conditions

Correctional facilities was invented not by communists. Also why you didn't mentioned trusty system? Or the conditions of prisoners in US was bearable? Don't kidding me.

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How many people was arrested? Oh, 1.5 million according to the wikipedia. Here is global research for you about the USA. http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-prison-population-dwarfs-that-of-other-nations/8801
It has 751 people in prison or jail for every 100,000 in population. So, if population of USA is 320 million and it has 751 in prison or jail for every 100,000 it means that 2.4 million people are sitting nowadays in USA.. Got it? 1.5 vs. 2.4

So why the time when 1.5 million people are arested in USSR called "Great Purge" and the same situation in USA, when the number of people is 2.4 million, called democracy? What is that? Double standards?

If you haven't known, arresting for crimes comitted against the law such as murder, theft or financial machinations to which the american people agreed upon as malicious rather than for thinking other than what the Soviet party thought is quite different.

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Correctional facilities was invented not by communists. Also why you didn't mentioned trusty system? Or the conditions of prisoners in US was bearable? Don't kidding me.

In the US and most other civilized countries, prisoners are at least fed, live in housing facilities that aren't over-run by parasites or epidemics due to the low hygiene and aren't forced to work in unbearable conditions. Aside from that, I wasn't saying that such facilities were invented by the USSR, but rather were used as a tool of surpression for people thinking outside of the narrow ideology that the soviets propagated.

Some examples of the conditions in those supposed "correctional facilities" in the USSR from http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag#Conditions:

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Andrei Vyshinsky, procurator of the Soviet Union, wrote a memorandum to NKVD chief Nikolai Yezhov in 1938 which stated:

"Among the prisoners there are some so ragged and liceridden that they pose a sanitary danger to the rest. These prisoners have deteriorated to the point of losing any resemblance to human beings. Lacking food . . . they collect orts [refuse] and, according to some prisoners, eat rats and dogs."

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Most prisoners were compelled to perform harsh physical labor.In most periods and economic branches, the degree of mechanization of work processes was significantly lower than in the civilian industry: tools were often primitive and machinery, if existent, short in supply. Officially established work hours were in most periods longer and days off were fewer than for civilian workers. Often official work time regulations were extended by local camp administrators.

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A distinctive incentive scheme that included both coercive and motivational elements and was applied universally in all camps consisted in standardized "nourishment scales": the size of the inmates ration depended on the percentage of the work quota delivered. Naftaly Frenkel is credited for the introduction of this policy. While it was effective in compelling many prisoners to work harder, for many a prisoner it had the adverse effect, accelerating the exhaustion and sometimes causing the death of persons unable to fulfill high production quota.

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Quote from: fsb4000 on February 28, 2015, 12:24:37 PM

mprep has forgotten how to think, poor mprep . mprep does not have own opinion, only copy and paste from wikipedia Cheesy

I do have my opinion. I just choose to base it on facts recognised by most intelligent people in the world rather than on a logic of a few lunatics, unable to realise what atrocities USSR comitted, especially to the occupied countries.