Quote from: mprep on February 28, 2015, 01:56:00 PM

I did. There's a museum in my country in which some files that the soviets didn't take with them when they felt that USSR was ending remain. I saw the photocopied files.

Quote from: mprep on February 28, 2015, 01:56:00 PM

Sadly, I have relatives and close friends of those relatives that would say different. Some were more fortunate and were just interrogated and let go, others got to experience the conditions that "wasn't royal". They just used different words to describe that. Regarding the statistics, I base my opinions on what most of the world has agreed upon. Not sure what kind of statistics you base yours.

Wow, that means that I can't change your mind. Because, you know, I've heard a lot of bad things about Stalin's time and even cases when people was arrested or killed because of literally nothing, but I do not trust him cuz I still didn't see any of files and have no friends/relatives who can proove fact about gulags. So, since that I think it's clear that you have a great reason to believe in all that bad things about Stalin and I have a nice reason to disagree with you. Not because you or me are brainwashed, but because we saw a literally diffrenet proofs before. But it was a nice to talk to you.

Quote from: bitgeek on February 28, 2015, 02:36:24 PM

Nice propaganda. They did not forget to mention that short period in which they were attack by Poland and how they defeated Hitler, but forgot they pacted with hitler to attack Poland and actually started the war fighting alongside Germany.

Yeah, that is what people call propaganda. Nobody going to tell you in UK that they support Hitler at the beginning but they will tell you about Gulag. Why Russians can't do the same? So, you can see our propaganda without pacted with hitler but with a lot of good memories insead of it. Have a nice time watching!

Quote from: Nemo1024 on February 28, 2015, 03:52:38 PM

For the hundreds time: not Russian, but Soviet. Not Red Army, but Soviet Army. I feel very much compelled to revive a history sub-topic that I let slip on the Donetsk thread.

Second. Soviet Union pulled its military presence (after rebuilding much of Poland after WWII). USA never did so with West-Germany. In fact as soon USSR moved out of Poland USA moved in. Oh, the irony.

But for a start, for the general historical education, please read the following article:
http://stanislavs.org/the-sorrow-of-a-warsaw-woman-why-poland-is-not-happy-to-be-liberated-from-fascism/

In 1945-1948 Soviet Union was busy rebuilding Poland, sending there engineers, machinery, manpower. Soviet Union itself was still struggling with the aftermath of WWII by the end of 1950s, but all the "brotherly" countries of the Eastern Block were by that time rebuilt and in good shape.
I understand that it's not politically correct to say anything positive about Soviet Union in Poland and that history books are being busily rewritten to suite the demands of the new masters...

Nice add! Thanks you!

Quote from: tee-rex on February 28, 2015, 03:55:37 PM

My question is not about the Red Army, I'm more interested about that "they were like animals compared to the western soldiers". What western soldiers do you actually refer to here?

I see what you did here Cheesy