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Counter question: "Why do most people (mostly) trust their governments?"

Now that is a question worth asking!

Because they chose their government.

but do they really?

Yes, in democratic countries they do. Just because a lot of people on this forum doesn't get it their way doesn't mean that the government isn't chosen through the united democratic will of the people.

Wrong.

I didn't choose this government. I chose an alternative.

In thIs system it doesn't matter what I choose. I get the choice of the mob forced upon me.

The illusion of choice is vital for maintaining control of the population.

exactly,

its not because you get the illusion to choose between two puppet scumbags, put there by extensive media coverage and other shadow banking interests whilst pretending to be different (democrate vs republican, right vs left...) that you have a choice. you dont. they force that choice illusion so you STFU, do your chords and pay your taxes.

edit: thats called 'representative' democracy. which by definition is not democracy.

If you're talking about the US then there is definitely a democratic shortfall in the system. The two parties are center-right and right-wing parties. The Congress doesn't work, partly because of filibuster rules that lets a minority block the democratically elected majority from getting things done, and partly because the american people don't understand its role so they keep electing retarded yahoos to punish a president for stuff that was the responsibility of the Congress. But the US has strong democratic institutions and a strong democratic tradition, so if the people wants to clean up this mess, they can.

If you're talking about Britain: Only a democracy could have forced the Torys to work with Nick "The Invertebrate" Clegg.