Quote from: erikalui on March 05, 2015, 08:07:18 PM

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@bold: I meant Verified PayPal account. I am not jumping to conclusions dear but accounts which are verified and sold, can easily be used for Money Laundering purposes.

Ok apparently the argument did not come across the first time. Let me try again: Bitcoin can easily be used for money laundering purposes, we should ban bitcoin.

Quote from: erikalui on March 05, 2015, 08:07:18 PM

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In the case of an account, the person who originally owns the account is blamed if the buyer is a fraud.

Which is complete and utter nonsense. Why would you blame someone for selling their account if the new owner does shenanigans with it?

Quote from: RodeoX on March 05, 2015, 08:09:04 PM

The problem for Mods is determining what is illegal, against someone's TOS, or legitimate. It would become their only job all day long. What I do is take note that an old, trusted account means nothing at all. Never trade based on trust. Satoshi's whole idea was a trust-less system.

I do think it's unethical even when it's legal. I will not sell my account, I may some day delete it, but not sell. I can only imagine why some one would pay me a few hundred bucks for it.

Unethical and illegal are two very different things. I would not sell my account either even though I have no ethical problems with it. Its just that I tend to get attached and would not want anyone else "in" it.

One legit reason would be for profit. The signature of a legendary account is worth more than the signature of a Jr. Member. You have less restrictions regarding the frequence you can post.

Quote from: erikalui on March 05, 2015, 08:10:12 PM

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That's what I am trying to say. If tomorrow anybody files a complaint with PayPal, Amazon or any other website about the illegal activities going on here, it may cause the forum to be shut down. Too many illegal activities will ruin this forum which can be of help to many of us. I don't want it to happen.

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Trading of goods that are illegal in the seller's or buyer's country is forbidden.

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Violating some companies ToS might not be legal in my country. E.g. steam does not allow me to sell games I bought there. My countries laws however are pretty clear in that regard. I own that copy of the game and it is my right to sell it. Steam does not allow me to sell an individual game. Selling or buying a Steam account is thus not illegal in my country but at best in a grey area and whether the sale would break any laws would have to be determined in a courtroom. Trading PayPal accounts might be similarly a grey area in certain areas of the world.

Quote from: NotLambchop on March 05, 2015, 08:16:56 PM

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This is why we can't have nice things.

Its not allways possible to have everyting

Quote from: ajareselde on March 05, 2015, 08:21:35 PM

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There are many cases of selling other peoples paypal accounts, many with linked bank accounts and CC , in what country is this not illegal ?
And when it comes to bitcointalk account selling just to be able to participate on a sig. campaign, dont u think the owner of the campaign would want to know to whom he is paying?

cheers

As stated above I am not sure about paypal, if their terms of service state something that is not applicable in your country that part is nil. I dont know american law, I know enough of my countries law though to know that many ToS of internation companies have some clause that is nil. Especially regarding data privacy, but thats a different topic.

In regards to signature campaigns, they usually dont ask for details. Most here are pseudonymous anyway, what does a new pseudonym matter?

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