Quote from: inBitweTrust on March 05, 2015, 09:08:13 PM

Quote from: barabbas on March 05, 2015, 08:40:12 PM

No need of so called solid evidence if we are to have a level playing field AND protect innocents from them, but when you and all those either produce or thoroughly support FALSE, FAKED documents, that's a line that should never be crossed. That's what you have been doing since the get go. NOT warning of "red flags" at all -which would be a positive thing to do-, but supporting the lynching by a vicious mob determine to make the project fail by any means necessary. Actually, being (a very active) part of it. Big difference, comprende?

Impassioned and a tad paranoid. There is no conspiracy here and I openly have admitted any biases and history of warning people about GAW or any other cloud mining scam organizations. There probably are some paycoin investors who have a personal vendetta against Josh or GAW... I was never burned by GAW so am not one of those individuals.

I agree, that producing false documents is a line that should never be crossed. I am not a utilitarian who believes the ends justify the means. In this case there is so much evidence that there really is no need for anyone to manufacture fake documents.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/257653034/SEC-Subpeona-Josh-Garza-Paycoin-Scam

I don't hate you or wish any ill will to befall you. I do not have a hidden agenda and will openly state what my motivations are. If paycoin held promise for a better future I would be investing in it right along side you. I empathize with you and what you are probably going through now, feeling cheated out of a promised reward and lashing out to the "mob" of concerned citizens around you in an attempt to shore up some value in your investments. You may be tempted to take the gamble and hold out for a bit longer hoping that Josh will eventually come through on some of his promises. Do what you feel is best, but just keep in mind that you are dealing with a highly inflationary currency that has a significant premine and a company that is dependent upon paying a mountain of debt in legal fees, past and current expenses almost entirely with selling paycoin further placing downward pressure upon XPY.

P.s... Personally, I cannot wait to stop thinking about and posting about GAW. This is a tremendous waste of time but this thread needs to be alive with any new evidence in helping warn potential new victims and assist journalists and investigators and any victims who wish to take legal action against GAW . We need to raise our standards in the crypto community, not lower them and I will continue to be equally harsh against any bitcoin companies as well.

See? Once again, a subpoena by the SEC, of all establishments, -you haven't cared to even look up what the SEC is... it is a COMMISSION, not a law enforcement agency, get the difference?- is for you "...so much evidence that there really is no need for anyone to manufacture fake documents." Right there we can all clearly see the straws you are willing to hang to to keep up with your bloody hunting party...

But first of all, let me make very clear to you that my personal interest in XPY is beyond modest, actually minimal and that overall I have profited from trading it in a significant way, so spare me your BS about understanding what I must be going through, ok?

And no, for whatever twisted reason, you cannot live, you cannot survive without this particular soylent green which is hunting down by any and all means, bar none, XpY. When and if you consider you job done, you will go through a very lengthy period of detox and experience significant withdrawal effect.

perhaps you have chosen to ignore that I have never once stated that XPY is not a con or a scam. I just don't know. No one can now in the realm outside of Garza's closes associate (his brother). That's THE FACT. But, definitely, a subpoena of documents by the SEC is ANYTHING BUT evidence of anything, let along ANY and ALL wrongdoing. As stated in my previous post, the SEC would not have even known ever what GAW of payCoin/Paybase ever were if a legion of nutcases like you wouldn't have staged the 24/7 twisted campaign, hunt party if you will, to discredit the project by any means, regardless. The SEC is just a hungry-for-money commission, that will look into anything that can mean money for them. Now, probably they will find something to significantly fine GAW for, thus setting a precedent... which, obviously will be appealed and finally settled, paid and big fat lawyer's bills paid too. all at significant cost to GAW... and, ultimately, yes numbnuts, to you and me and the entire crypto community. But that is, some of what BY ANY MEANS exactly mean, right. And the personal and "professional" satisfaction of those representatives of the "established (shit)coins" is well worth the cost right? Except that more that you and them can play that game, and the sharks at the SEC will have tasted blood. And will come for more, PRECISELY from those established (shit) coins with so many skeletons in the closet, from the US to Cambodia and back, the the SEC fees alon e can put a stop to the immense amount of shit that plagues the entire crypto scene. Poetic justice is certainly on the way. You -or them- never intended it. But it is coming nevertheless.

And in the end, despicable actions notwithstanding -and yours and theirs are as despicable as they come-, it all be for the greater good. Ah, karma... It's a bitch.