Quote from: erikoehler on March 06, 2015, 03:16:35 PM

I'll figure out Morellian with or without additional coders helping. Just might take longer.

I'll do my best to organize anyone who comes forward and volunteers, but again, the tragedy of volunteerism is lack of motivation, especially in the virtual world. I had several people, who seemed willing to take on tasks, that just didn't follow through on them.

Barabbas, I'd encourage you to volunteer any skills you have (you clearly can write) towards adoption as opposed to criticism sans action. (the worst kind of criticism, really) And as I've said all along, anyone can be a "community manager". Just step up, start doing something. Isn't that the beauty of crypto? There's no board or CEO to answer to. You're all 100% autonomous with how you choose to help spread the adoption. Really think about that for a second. If you've ever worked for a company, there is always the underlying need for someone up the chain to be "ok" with it or for it to conform to company rules and standards. There is no such thing here.

If you have an actual idea (it seems like you probably do) come out with it. If I like it and can do it, I'll do it! If someone else sees it and can do it, they'll do it. No one needs to ask permission or run anything by me or drak. This isn't a business. The rules are not the same.

That said, I agree there should be some kind of budget set aside from the premine for marketing. Not even to pay me. I don't need to be compensated at all. I own plenty of VIA and if it takes off, I certainly stand to benefit. That's compensation enough. But maybe bringing in someone who has a good background in marketing would be beneficial. I mentioned this early on, Drak. "Development" of the coin isn't just code, though it's the majority of it. And it isn't like a public company, where you can just dilute and raise more funds. The premine is it. That's all you've got to work with to actively develop/promote with compensation. Peter was/is an excellent way to spend some of it, and the crypto world will reap the benefits of his work. But if you want this to be more than just a testing ground, consider a budget and a plan. Can work with you on it if you want.

Thank you for your encouragement. Unfortunately there are multiple reasons why I choose to decline your suggestion, among many others, a clash in concept that I would have with you right from the start: I do not believe criticism without "action" is the worst kind of criticism. Not at all. Almost the contrary. So, right there, we would clash. And that's not even counting in the inevitable crashes with someone, who happens to be the ultimate decider, and whose actions (or lack thereof) I find reprobable in 90% or more of the cases. I disagree with you thoroughly when you pretend you don't need an OK here to do anything, when in actuality this is a total dictatorship, no matter how "bening" drak chooses to make it at that at times.

Also, as stated, volunterism should not exist in an obvious "for profit" project like this. NOR, I may add, should all the burden be carried even by the majority stake holders. But yes, leaders should lead. And since they stand to benefit much more than anyone else, they should be leading by example.

Any involvement of mine, of course, would not tolerate the obvious disdain with which drak relates to the supporters and investors in his project, exemplified by the minimal statements like the last one about some BIp66 that no one seems to know what the heck it means, does or how can benefit VIA. He doesn't bother to explain it, much less be enthusiastic or promotional about it. He just dumps it here -which he makes no secret he despises- in the less friendly way possible and goes immediately back to whatever he does in his life with the implication that he will commit some effort maybe twice a year to this thing. And not even a commitment, more like "if I really continue feeling like it" kind of thing.

BHut, being 100% honest as I try to be always, I know my limitations. And to even the thought of entertaining to possibility of working for the benefit of some of the members of the community, would revolt me. As you know, my criticisms are rather start, not precisely sugar coated in many instances. And like some that even concede I may have not just one but several points will volunteer to point out, to some in the community that is too harsh... not to mention the fact that they gladly drink the kool aid that the dev "is not your employee...." etc, etc. I will restrain myself for once, to qualify my feelings towards those people. Lets just nicely put it this way: They are a bit beyond "mutual", ok?

So, once again thanks for the consideration. But no, thanks.

I also believe I can do much more good keeping an eye on developments and actions -or lack there of- from the sidelines. Supporting what I consider positive, criticizing what I consider negative and, like I have just done, offering suggestions. You may keep on considering it "the worst type of criticism" and we will just have to continue to agree to disagree.