Quote from: AirWolf on March 07, 2015, 07:33:03 PM

Read Puppet DEFEND ASICMINER here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=833704.msg10683608#msg10683608

Now you're just being stupid. How is that defending AM?

1. Says AM isn't a ponzi -> True. A ponzi pays new investors from old investors money. AM did a single round of share issuance 2.5 years ago and raised ~BTC15k, worth around $150k at the time. Since then they've paid out almost BTC100k, at a time when BTC was over US$100. There is a massive amount of AM hardware out there, and many people here's first foray into mining was using a Block Erupter USB stick. A straight up ponzi cannot pay out more than it brings in.

2. Says AM could be a legit company turned scam. Also true, there is definitely a lot of sketchiness around the current situation and based on how things usually go in the Bitcoin world I'd be surprised at this point if all the AMHash investors got paid in full. I would personally say AM has been getting continually worse over the last year with how they've interacted with customers and investors, though they've always been pretty bad.

3. Says that this being them just turning scam doesn't make a lot of sense. This is debatable, but I'd agree with him. AM's last major publicity was the Prisma catching fire debacle, and Asicminer must have incurred serious losses replacing all those boards free of charge under their voluntary recall. If they would straight up going to run they could have promised free upgrades to BE300 instead alongside preselling the crap out of BE300 before running. Now, they might have done the Prisma recall expecting to continue forward with business as usual but BE300 was a failure, but no one really knows at this point.

All that isn't defending AM, it's just saying that they're not a ponzi, might be a scam, and the whole thing doesn't make sense. This is what defending a scam sounds like.

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I am TorukMakto, pbmining customer with more than 12.000GHS, got paid today, a little late and a little less, transaction is confirmed.

Now, for all the "justice knights" guys like Mr.Teal, Puppet, and all the others that are scaring our alleged ponzi admin, let me tell you this:

For all the poor souls that committed the sin of trusting a not-so-clear business in the hopes of a good return and that, in your view, where stupid enough for not investigating this pbmining enough, let me tell you that bigger and more "established" guys like MtGox where scams in the long run, there is a thing in life called RISK, life is risky.

Now in my case i was watching and experimenting with it myself for months and decided to step in, for what i see, this guy really cares, what i don't know if he cares for the suspected ponzi to continue for longer time or he has a real consciousness and honesty and somehow the business is sound, i found some amazing evidence in their accounts that proves that even GHASH.IO is purchasing from PBMINING, just make a taint analysis of the account where they receive the money for the sales

I has worked for me, it is working less in the past few weeks, but my message to Puppet, Mr. Teal and the others is: STOP TROLLING OUR SUCCESSFUL PONZI-SCAM-WHATEVER. You wanted people to know?, ok, people is aware now, you want to play the avenging skull?, ok, you did.

Now i think that what you really want is all the 6000+ souls to lost our money, so please NOW SHUT THE F***K UP and STOP DAMAGING +6000 PEOPLE LIVES!!, LET OUR PONZI-SCAM-WHATEVER BUSINESS MAKE GOOD OF HIS WORD!

And for all of us that are hopeless prisoners of our decision to invest in pbmining, let's band together and protect our investment, we cannot do anything else, but try to make our boat not making more water.

LETS BE PRACTICAL HERE, the PB GUY has demonstrated that he cares. lets help him pay us.