Quote from: danielpbarron on March 12, 2015, 03:07:13 PM

You. Are. Wrong. How many times do I have to explain this you damned dirty government agent.

You are confusing the mechanism by which the fork is triggered, with the economic pressure put on miners afterwards. You are confusing the pre-fork with the post-fork. It costs miners nothing to brand their blocks "version 4," whether they are actually going to adopt the new rules or not. It is an entirely different story when they start minting blocks that other nodes cannot validate. In the post-fork scenario, there will be two different versions of bitcoin for sale at two different prices. Miners will choose the most profitable coin to mine, just like altcoin miners shift around to different pools depending on changing difficulties and prices.

I am sure that 21e6 that just announced a $116M investment round in order to bring mining to the masses will afford a couple of nodes that will support the large block size limit. If you think your boss MP can compete with them then you are simply lying to yourself.

Quote from: onemorexmr on March 12, 2015, 03:16:20 PM

blacklisting people is a different story than blacklisting specific coins.
where you every in a store and heard a cashier saying: no i dont take this coin, please give me another one?

Don't try to change the subject like everyone else. I haven't said anything about blacklisting coins. I said about blacklisting people/addresses. If you re-read my post again you will see that I have already answered to this matter: "Taking into account the history of the coins is simply retarded and will be done only by those that do not understand Bitcoin."

And yes. Since no cashier will ever tell you that it can't accept your money because they were involved in shady stuff the same will happen with Bitcoin.

Quote from: davout on March 12, 2015, 05:47:04 PM

How about a miner, or a group of miners, broadcast v4 blocks, or even go as far as actually playing along with the fork, for the sole purpose of artificially inflating the exchange rate of gavincoin?
For an actor, or a group, with a reasonable chunk of hashpower, that would be a pretty efficient way to manipulate the cross-chain market and make a killing in the process.

I thought that at least 75% of the hashpower is needed in order to be able to broadcast v4 blocks so I don't see how can a miner or a group of miners can play along with the fork. Maybe you can explain it to me.

Quote from: Cryddit on March 12, 2015, 07:12:53 PM

Come on, guys, we aren't supposed to be idiots. Why would we deal with anyone via an unauthenticated protocol for future performance or delivery of anything?

Isn't this a case for a smart contract on the blockchain? Both parties put money and when the conditions apply the money goes to either sides and until then nobody has control over the money so nobody can vanish with them.