Quote from: dmwardjr on March 16, 2015, 04:09:31 PM

Quote from: padrino on March 16, 2015, 03:57:06 PM

Quote from: Prelude on March 16, 2015, 02:20:47 PM

Quote from: pekatete on March 16, 2015, 02:00:27 PM

^^^ How do you know you were scammed? 1.2 BTC including worlwide shipping ..... 2gd2btru!

Quote from: padrino on March 16, 2015, 02:06:43 PM

Quote from: Prelude on March 16, 2015, 01:47:40 PM

Looks like I got scammed on eBay, paid for 3 SP20Es using BTC (I know, I know..) because the seller had 100% feedback and 173 transactions. Stupid me for thinking that was enough to trust him.

Here are the 3 units I "bought". Beware of him.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Spondoolies-SP20E-JACKSON-capable-of-0-5-W-GH-underclocked-/321693638970?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae66f613a
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Spondoolies-SP20E-JACKSON-capable-of-0-50-W-GH-underclocked-/321693639755?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae66f644b
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Spondoolies-SP20E-JACKSON-capable-of-0-5-W-GH-if-underclocked-/321693640121?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae66f65b9

I'm feeling real fucking dumb right about now. Guess contacting eBay will be pointless, since I paid for them with BTC and have nothing but our messages as proof.

So did he not provide tracking within a few days of sale, did they not show up after a week or two, like pekatete asked how do you know you were scammed? Even with BTC payment a legitimate seller that is so active will most likely not risk loosing his 100% feedback so easily..

This started on March 13th. We messaged back and forth through eBay until we struck a deal, at which point he provided me with a BTC address to send my payment to. Sent him the payment, and asked him a follow up question. No answer on the 13th, or the 14th. On the 15th, I was worried so I wrote him again. Still no answer. I decided to bid up all 3 of them since I had paid for them already, and he only had those 3 to sell. They are legitimately mine, so why not. Trying to get his attention. He finally gets back to me last night, asking why I bid such a ridiculous price on all 3 of his items, proceeds to remove my bids, and sends me another message informing me that he did. Keep in mind he completely ignored my previous messages I sent him after paying him.

The 3 SP20Es are still up for sale, he's still ignoring me, and I can no longer bid on them or use the "ask the seller a question" option. Seems he's banned me from his auctions.

Do I have any recourse? The 3 SP20Es I bought are apparently available for local pickup in France, and he told me he has more SP20Es being hosted in Israel when he was actually communicating with me. I guess the only thing I can do is contact eBay, though I doubt they'll help since I paid with bitcoin. Undecided

Ohh, you didn't buy the items through ebay and pay via BTC, you just sent BTC directly to him.. Does ebay not even have a completed sale to reference?

PayPal [owned by eBay and is eBay's created means of making payments] does not accept BTC payments yet. If eBay (PayPal) had accepted BTC payments, this would not have occurred.

Pisses me off!

I think the issue may be that the price of BTC could change between the time of payment [While PayPal holds the payment] and the time the item is received by the buyer. The way to settle that is for the seller to simply accept an agreement when accepting bitcoin that they will be okay with BTC payment if the price of BTC has changed between the time of sell and the buyer receiving the item.

For next time...

Does eBay support Non-PayPal payment methods, yes.. Do they offer coverage in those cases, no... However you still have the privilege of leaving negative feedback and can defend it to eBay even with BTC payments.. In short they still make a final value fee in that case..

Disclaimer.. I successfully sold multiple 10K+ batches of miners via eBay, paid fees and took BTC payment..