Quote from: l8orre on April 09, 2015, 04:38:37 AM

Quote from: Kora on April 09, 2015, 04:33:30 AM

Quote from: tintumon on April 08, 2015, 05:58:50 PM

When do we conclude, we've been scammed and move on?

It might be time to concede defeat (i.e. the original plans & goals for project ORA have failed), but that's not the same as saying "we've been scammed and move on". Please don't label ORA a scam, even if this is in fact the end. A scam is a deliberate attempt to deceive people more personal gain. I have not deceived anyone, and I have personally lost quite a bit of money pursuing ORA.

Everyone associated with ORA acted in good faith, except for nio (maybe) our one time lead dev. Maybe he acted dishonestly to sabotage the project from the start and deceived me, and by extension everyone else, but that's a subjective matter as there's no proof one way or another. nio took my 2 bitcoin personal bounty for taking up the roll of lead dev, then communicated with us publicly and privately for a few months without doing anything of substance, then disappeared. Maybe he's had a good laugh at my/your/our expense, or maybe he fell under a bus. Who knows.

I think I am definitely open to criticism, but not for being a scammer. A fail isn't the same as a scam. Nobody made any money from ORA except Mac Red (who I paid for his work on the registration webapp), and nio. Everyone else, including Darkhorse, was acting voluntarily, so nobody made any $$$ out of ORA. Maybe some made profits from trading on the NXT AE but I did not - I bought a load of ORA (~14 million) and sold none!

so there is a NXT MS currency called 'ORA' now on the blockchain, and the only one who has access to it is Darkhorse? Is that it? No redundancy?

You can't even write him a post card like in the old days and ask him if he is all right and to give you a telephone call?

I know DH lives in Malaysia, which he mentioned publicly a few times, but we never exchanged real world details. I'm still confident he'll be back, just not sure when. I'm waiting! DH was a good guy, so whatever happened, it must be BIG, and as he was only acting as a community volunteer, real world matters should take precedence.