Quote from: J. J. Phillips on April 10, 2015, 03:36:47 AM

You're saying they're unique among the "supposedly civilised countries we think of as western." This clearly implies you have one standard for the "supposedly civilised countries we think of as western" and another standard for those who aren't. That's a double standard.

no. israel gets away with its crimes. uncivilised third world savages get called out on their savagery.
when the third world savages act up we put sanctions on their countries and/or warrants out for their leaders arrests or at bare minimum tell them we disapprove of what they're doing. with israel nothing is done to bring it into line. bibi gets to spit in the eye of the american president and other world leaders and there will be no un sanctions, the aid will not be cut and the kenyan ape will still show up grovelling at the next aipac conference.

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There's no clear standard by which the West Bank and Gaza are occupied but Saudi Arabia is not. The people who control Saudi Arabia gained that control by conquest. In addition, the ancestors of those who control Saudi Arabia today destroyed the religions of those who lived there before.

the clear standard is the right to self determination. all saudi citizens have rights in their country. most palestinians living under israeli rule don't.

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No one wants else wants to try to answer this? Is it because you all agree Palestine never was a country?

depends what definition of the world you're using but it wasn't a self governing entity with a distinct national identity separating its people from other arabs which is what you're obviously getting at. it did have borders and legislature and passports and currency and its citizens weren't turfed out by the rulers to make way for hook nosed brooklyn shlomos with m16s.