Quote from: MUFC on April 13, 2015, 10:17:20 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on April 13, 2015, 10:10:28 AM

The verse talk about family life. There are many reasons for the higher decree to men. In most places, where woman has power, the place are ruined especially if they have higher power in family. I have seen many families being ruined because of higher power for women. However, it doesn't mean men can oppress or hurt women. There are strict rules regarding this.

How can you not realize how backward and ignorant your views are here? But this is one of the biggest problems with Islam with its institutionalized sexism that treats women as second class citizens so that's why its ok to rape or beat them to death. There's no logic in it other than trying to pathetically justify your beliefs. To say where women have power families are ruined is ridiculous. Most of the time, in most cultures or countries, it's usually the fathers that end up screwing up the families Islam included.

Men has higher decree than women but how could it possibly mean men can do whatever they like on women? An Indian president have higher decree than citizens, how could that possibly mean he could do whatever he likes to them?

Quote from: twister on April 13, 2015, 10:20:34 AM

Well all the media around the world can't be telling lies, they can get prosecuted in some countries for giving out fake news. But as I said it's hard for a Islam practicing muslim to believe this. Therefore, I won't try to convince you.

And if you're talking about Men/Women equality. Tell me how many Marriages is a male allowed? 4 right? Meaning a man can have 4 women at the same time as his wives.

And how many are women allowed?

I undertand. We(in general) both may not be able to convince each other.

Yes, a man can have a maximum of four wives. There are strict rules if one man marry more than one wife.

I will give you a simple answer for that. Milk four types of animals, say goat, cow, camel and donkey. Pour them in a pot/bucket/flask and mix them. Can you now identify which is from which? It is the same with having babies. If you have four husbands, it won't be easy to who is child's father? But this is not the case for a man.