Quote from: xtester on April 13, 2015, 06:11:28 PM

Quote from: dandruff1138 on April 13, 2015, 05:03:06 PM

After some discussion with a coleague of mine we came to the conclusion that this took a year + to develope, and the launch was 6 moths late. Taken these facts into consideration, do not expect anything groundbreaking for at least, AT L E A S T another 12 months. Prepare for 40 sats in the next 12 months of discussion and no results. There will be talk and talk and more talk. Look at this realistically. The crypto world second hand moves fast, and this coin will be the next reddcoin, syscoin, vert, etc... These developers lack marketing skillset. They also have nothing innovative but talk about innovation. Talk gets us no where in this game.

Hello dandruff1138,

Have you built something similar? Do you really know what it takes? Are you a dev? I very much doubt that.

Anyway, I think it would be best if you would sell your stake in NEM and just move to your other projects. There's no point in further wasting your time and ours. In fact I want to repeat where we stand with NEM today; people who understand and want to bet on this project are very welcome but must see this is a long term project, not a pump and dump scheme. People who do not believe in NEM are also free to leave and would do us a favor in doing that. There will not be much of a price increase with all the people who have payed or done almost nothing for their XEM and are just waiting for the right moment to dump. The sooner the filtering happens and uninterested people leave, the faster we move forward beyond the initial confusing phase.

If you somehow missed this post, please make sure you read it. It might give you and your colleague some thoughts regarding what your next moves should be.

Quote from: jabo38 on April 13, 2015, 09:45:55 AM

Quote from: mickyd on April 13, 2015, 05:37:42 AM

Quote from: jabo38 on April 13, 2015, 02:41:44 AM

Quote from: xtester on April 12, 2015, 07:11:43 PM

A brief clarification and overview

I think it's very important to understand and clarify some things here as some people are unsatisfied with our current situation and this may well be due to some unrealistic expectations. While I make this point, do note that we read everything and appreciate every bit of thoughtful criticism we can receive.

After so much time and energy invested, NEM has finally launched. As you have seen, we have had a fairly smooth launch and our platform seems to be behaving as expected until now. A lot of work has been put into this, and our dev team has done everything to ensure NEM is an innovative and solid platform to build upon. Thus, our launch is a major step forward in proving that NEM is real and that our dev team can really deliver valuable innovation. But while we have launched, NEM is far from complete. In fact, all the work leading to our launch has only been our first major step in taking NEM from concept to reality. We have a great team and a solid technological foundation to build upon, so on the one hand that's everything one can wish for, but on the other, there is still a lot of work to be done. Although we are already ahead of most crypto projects, you must understand that NEM's features, killer apps and ease of use are not here yet, but are expected to be implemented until V1. This is why the price discussion, though seemingly justified now, will probably look at best negligible in the long run. We are planning to hit the masses, but not with the current version.

The real journey has just begun. There will probably be a lot of hurdles and unexpected events along the road, but this will no doubt be one hell of a ride judging by all the great people we have on the team and passionate community members. What I am really saying, is that the real value of NEM lays in the future. Both dev team and marketing team have been and are still working hard because this is not the point when NEM is complete and we can relax, quite the contrary. There's still a long way to go and one year from now, NEM will probably be a lot closer to what we want. Once our we will have those things implemented, then we will be ready to offer real value and utility. That will be the point where we will hype things and everyone will hear about NEM. Right now, well, we're not there and we have work to do, but this goes one step at a time.

Bottom line: The bad news is there is no guarantee in this game, despite best intentions we could fail. The good news is we have a great and passionate team which is still here and even bigger after one year, we have not run away with your money(big plus for this since it's very rare in crypto-land Cheesy

) and we have delivered a solid, viable, though not yet complete product. This are the valuable things NEM has to offer now and the things with which it sets out on this journey. As it stands, chances are in our favor but there's still a long way to go, so we'd better start working smart and working together. See you later.

This is a personal note and does not necessarily reflect the views of anyone else in the NEM Team.

Cheers,
xtester

NEM marketers are a solid team and NEM devs are amazing.

There is a lot of negativity and I know a lot of people wanted to wake up on launch day with a full blown ecosystem and be millionaires. That didn't happen and people are let down.

Instead what we have is a very solidly built NIS with a lot of great APIs and not hardly any third party ecosystem.

As time goes by NEM devs will continue to make the platform even more robust and agile and NEM marketers will help to promote an ecosystem.

Life at NEM had been very busy, and is very different now after launch than before launch and again will be very different after V1 as we will have had more time to get an ecosystem going and additional features and APIs that are not and will continue to not be found elsewhere.

"NEM marketers are a solid team" Cheesy

You can show one step from nem marketers since launch or shortly prelaunch? Nem marketing dies not exist

If you want to know our recent activity, I'll try to list some.

NEM marketers have a budget of exactly $0 but with that budget run
Website (http://www.nem.io/)
Forum (https://forum.ournem.com/)
Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/ourNEM) Almost 2,000 followers
Twitter (https://twitter.com/nemofficial) Almost 500 followers
Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/ournem) (Just starting out)
Weibo (http://weibo.com/nemchina)
BTC38 (http://www.btc38.com/altcoin/xem/)

Contacted and got deals for the following exchanges and payment processor for XEM.
Poloniex (https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_xem)
Bittrex (https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-XEM)
Coingateway (https://coingateway.net/)
And talks have been in the works for two more Chinese exchanges as well as another payment processor.

The NEM marketing team makes special efforts to answer questions as soon as possible when they come up here on this thread, Telegram, forum, and Facebook too.

Wrote everything on http://blog.nem.io/nem-tutorial-list/ to make sure that all the community can work NEM.

Wrote a press release last week: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/more-under-development-next-generation-205200639.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=fb&fb_ref=Default

Working with different news outlets to get stories published about NEM
Article: http://allcoinsnews.com/2015/04/07/nem-qa/
Article: http://cointelegraph.com/news/113839/nem-launches-targets-old-economy-with-proof-of-importance
Article: http://cointelegraph.com/news/113698/proof-of-importance-nem-is-going-to-add-reputations-to-the-blockchain
Article: http://8btc.com/thread-15618-1-2.html
Article: http://www.8btc.com/nem_interview_about_poi
Article: http://www.8btc.com/nempressrelease
and more coming later.

Helped to get these apps listing NEM as coin tickers:
Apple: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/coinfeed-bitcoin-dogecoin/id781662999
Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobnetic.coinguardian&hl=en

Getting listed on CMC https://coinmarketcap.com/#BTC
And getting listed on Cryptocoin Charts https://www.cryptocoincharts.info/coins/info
Getting listed on Coin Gecko http://www.coingecko.com/

Made a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ClzvI5EFss

Again, all right now with a budget of $0. Actually worse than a budget of $0. We have been spending our own money. In my case over $600, and others have spent a lot more than me.

So yes, marketing has been busy and hard at work and is still hard at work trying to make things happen in the future. Hopefully soon we will get a real budget and start to really make a movement.

What a lot of people wanted was to wake up one day at launch and become millionaires with a full ecosystem up and running built on NEM. That is not realistic even in the best case scenario, but with a lot more hard work and time, it might just be possible. I know it is my intention.

If you guys would walk the walk and not blame the community for your flaws you might actually make a name for yourself. But it is nothing but lip service and quieting any criticism, sticking to the status quo I see. "Movement" my behind.