Quote from: Cryddit on April 14, 2015, 05:03:42 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on April 14, 2015, 03:30:36 PM

I am curious if you understand that the 20 years of no warming means the climate models and the alarmists were wrong. You try to cover this up by saying "Oh, the heat isn't going into the air, but the sea."

20 years of no warming? What the hell planet are you living on? The ten hottest years on record (since we started keeping detailed records in 1880) have all occurred within the last 17 years!
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Yes, the temperature rise has not been as severe as people thought it would be in 2001. Yes, it's because a lot of the heat they thought would be going into the atmosphere has been going into the ocean instead.....

Do you realize what you are saying? Just take the RSS data and run some numeric series on it. When you move to a different perspective, this does not invalidate the prior statements.

The claim that "excess heat" is suddenly going into the oceans is bunko. "Oh, the air hasn't been warming. IT'S THE OCEANS!"

As I mentioned, the error was in attempting to derive and propagate a "world average temperature" instead of the correct approach, global latent heat. But alarmists wanted to keep their world temperature average, ridiculous and anti-scientific though it was. (Then you can say ridiculous but alarming things such as the Nine Hottest Years). That is not my error or my problem. It is the problem of alarmists such as yourself who attempt to make conclusions to their advantage from "thousands of articles" and do not even understand the laws of thermodynamics.

Now you'd like to do what? What is the measure of Earth's heat? Only by first defining that can you make a valid argument.

Good article.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2011/07/on-the-divergence-between-the-uah-and-rss-global-temperature-records/