Quote from: itod on April 15, 2015, 06:29:55 PM

Quote from: vectorxy208 on April 15, 2015, 10:33:51 AM

I've not yet concluded that I've been scammed but it sure as hell doesn't look good XD.
But I'm still giving Ryan the benefit of doubt here.

9 days ago I gave Ryan .5 BTC to join his group.
There were some things I noted quickly and a long the way that was/is of concern:

1st and most importantly: I've so far made ZERO profit from this group. I'm 1.5 poorer atm, 1 BTC from investing in 2 of Ryan's coins and .5 BTC from 1 week membership fee. I've been following his instructions on what price to buy into the coins but have not been able to sell anything yet since there has simply not been any options to do so. My ambiton was obviously to at least earn back the fee I paid and hopefully go plus from there.

Ryans' reply to this? Since it was a PM I won't copy/paste because I respect the "private" part of it, but basically he's saying it's natural to not sell anything at all during a week of membership (to not make any profit). He's saying profit will come eventually if I'm just patient enough. He also explained the weekly statistics as something that is often misinterpreted by new members..the stats apparently don't show how much profit members have made but how much a certain coin has moved up/down totally. When I joined the group I expected that if a coin says +50% this is how much I'd be making, following Ryans instructions on when to sell. But no, this was not the case. I'd have made close to 200% last week if the stats displayed what I though they displayed. But there was never a single point during the week where I could actually sell anything and profit (more than possibly a few cents). Instead I'm just bagholding atm (and paid and entry fee for it). Ryan also made clear to me there's actually not even any real exit points, only entries. This does directly go against what's stated on the website where it more or less states the membership price includes instructions on when to exit the market.

Secondly there's basically extremely little communication and 90% of it is over PM. I met 1 other group member in chat but he wanted to discuss his picks privately with Ryan. Who knows if it was another legit member or not. So zero tips or communication from other members. I also met Ryan in the chat one day and we talked for a while. But other than that the chatroom was 100% empty of activity.

So yeah. I went in with an open mind and will to gamble a bit of my money but so far it has not given any returns. I've had better luck @ the casino.

I don't feel sympathy for your troubles at all. It's unbelievable that you were so naive that you actually thought Ryan's "coin gain" percentages are true and not fraud. Nobody could be so naive not to be suspicious those percentages are simple Rayn's fraud. Do you really want us to believe you thought Ryan earns those percentages and have to sell some 0.5 BTC "membership fee"? It's also obvious why there are no exit points in those "advises" he sells, only entry points. Reason is simple: Your entry points are his exit points, when he advises you to buy he actually sells to you for higher price coins he bought a week earlier while they were cheap. He can not tell you exit points because there are no exit points for you, only for him. Anyone who doesn't see these obvious facts deserves to be scammed by Ryan week by week.

None requested! If you think sympathy was the reason for my post you're mistaken. I knew it was a gamble when I went into it. I was just curious and thought the odds of getting something in return *might* be better than at a roulette table. But I was wrong apparently. I don't beat myself up over it at all, but of course I'd rather inform other people about my experience than keep quiet about it.

I'd also like to state I think Ryan's pretty darn convincing in what he does for many reason. I read through most of his website before joining and it contains a lot of seemingly good advice. He's definitely working hard on this "art". I think it's nice to have topics like this where people can be informed of the different tactics used.