Quote from: BADecker on April 19, 2015, 03:53:47 PM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on April 19, 2015, 03:18:56 PM

Quote from: just_me on April 19, 2015, 09:46:08 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on April 19, 2015, 09:37:56 AM

Quote from: just_me on April 19, 2015, 09:28:08 AM

Jesus is Lord of Lords and King of Kings,

it isn't a debate, Jesus Rules that is the way it is.

Jesus said it best, when he said: 'I am the way, the truth, and the life'

'and no man goes to the father, except through him'

It was at the time of Jesus. In Moses' time, "no man goes to father except through Moses". It is another twisting statement. You will understand it if you look in-context meaningz

NO MAN, means NO MAN whether it was at the time of Jesus, Moses, Adam, or current time.
Time is irrelevant in regards to that statement.

No man will go to God, except through Jesus.

Numbers 27:23

"laid his hands on him, and commissioned him, as the LORD had spoken through Moses."

...hmm...?

So what? God called Moses to do a job. That job was to form the nation of Israel into something that God wanted, and to lead the people of Israel to the land of Canaan which God promised to Abraham and his descendants through Isaac. This is what Moses was doing at the command of God.

"just_me" told "no" doesn't depend on "time" which is not true. If "no" doesn't depend on time, then how could either be true because God also spoke through Moses just like Jesus. Jesus isn't "alone" in it.

Quote from: BADecker on April 19, 2015, 03:53:47 PM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on April 19, 2015, 03:18:56 PM

Also:

Matthew 5:17

"Do not think that I have come to revoke The Written Law or The Prophets; I am not come to revoke but to fulfill."

Deuteronomy 14:8

"And also the pig, because even though its hoof is divided, it does not chew the cud. It is therefore unclean for you. You must not eat their meat or even touch their carcasses."

So why do Christians tell pork is allowed?

There are many nations around the world. How many of them are the nation of Israel? Only one. The ceremonial laws are for the physical nation of Israel, not for the rest of the nations except if it is a lawful thing for that nation in their national laws.

The ceremonial laws are there for Christians who want to obey them, but they are not required. They are also there for Christians to see how the process works from Moses to Jesus.

Jesus was a Jew. He didn't come to revoke the laws that the Jews hold. He came to fulfill them as a Jew.

Jesus didn't tell I cam here to fulfill Jews' laws, Jesus told I came here to fulfill laws of previous prophets not to contradict itz

Quote from: BADecker on April 19, 2015, 03:53:47 PM

However, the laws of love are for all people. Jesus and the Pharisees all agreed that the greatest Law is, "Love God above all things," and the second is like it, "Love your neighbor as yourself." Sadly, Islam doesn't always adhere to the second law in its writings... and maybe not even the first law.

There was no need for this to be here. You are just an islamaphobia.

Islam tells to love your God above all things and also to love, treat, respect and help your neighbors.