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About the question who knew what: I have deleted the email dump, but while I was skimming it, I did see an email in -- August? if not August, then late July or early Sept. -- from Josh Garza to Joe Mordica, with the subject line 'Dan Pease'. In it, Garza basically says: whoa, did you actually tell Dan Pease how our "mining" works? [Scare quotes mine, of course.] Mordica says: yes, he said you wanted me to. Garza says: well, yes, I wanted you to fill him in a bit, but not *that* much. Do NOT do that again!

Since Dan Pease was pretty heavily involved, the idea that he didn't know that the mining was virtual, and that Garza was horrified to learn that he'd been told, says a lot. On the other hand, what it does not say is that Joe Mordica didn't know.

I believe that was Capuano, not Mordica, IIRC.

It was Mordica. From July 27. Josh Garza: (Subject: Dan Pease): "He said you explained to him how zenminer works?"

Joe Mordica: "Yes sir. He said you wanted him involved enough to run it. Is this correct?"

JG: "I did, but I never told you to tell him.

Things are fine, but I want you to know for the future. Disclosing confidential information, even to another staff, is in breach of our confidentiality. Do yourself a favor and just to don't talk to anyone with out specific direction from me to do so. I don't want to have an issue

"

JM: "Sorry about that. I now understand the scope of the situation. If it was anyone but Dan I would not have. But now I see what your saying. Thanks for letting me know this way."

JG: "It's good

"

[Edit: I have no dog in this fight; just wanted to make sure I didn't have early onset Alzheimer's or anything.]

See bolded text. THIS is what I'm talking about about. If he succeeded at anything, it was making sure that not even a staff member could figure out the entire plan.

Dan Pease has been with "GAW" for several years, far longer than Joe. He started out as a tech support member for GAW High Speed Internet IIRC long before GAW Miners even existed and worked his way up the chain there. Then, after coming over to GAW Miners, he assumed the title of "General Manager" or "CFO" depending on which pretend organizational chart you look at. Yet he's still he's not to be trusted with "proprietary knowledge?" Yeah bullshit. Hell, I've known Josh over 15 years and I was intentionally left out of many of the "strategic planning" or "business strategy" talks. In my last week at GAW I finally asked why I was constantly kept in the dark on those plans, it was met with "You're good at what you do but we weren't really talking about any of that stuff so you weren't needed." Yeah bullshit. I found out later that it was because I routinely shot holes in shitty ideas and that wasn't welcome. I was told that my idea of criticism was "unproductive." Remind you of anything? Yeah, I was basically Shadow-banned^TM even inside the organization.

The fact that Dan Pease "couldn't be trusted" with the secrets of ZenCloud has less to do with confidentiality and more to do with compartmentalization. We use the same methods in the government, except it's to protect the nation from harm. The point of compartmentalization is that no one person or entity could be compromised and reveal enough to cause significant damage.

Since when was "fractional reserve mining" as sensitive as protecting national secrets? More like, JG wanted as few loose ends as possible.

_{I can't believe I haven't received another GAW legal threat yet.... I guess one will probably come soon^TM}

Since you brought up zencloud, do you know what tipped me off to this being a scam, even before XPY came along? It may surprise you and even the "geniusesatwork" didnt realize they had tipped their hand.

But it was the ever changing daily maintenance cost ZEN HASH and no one could coherently explain why... or even a formula for this calculation, then in the end they did even pay the electric bill? LOL oh the irony... seriously! They pocketed at least $800k or more just through those shenanigans.