Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on April 24, 2015, 06:01:45 PM

Quote from: Xian01 on April 24, 2015, 05:47:31 PM

Quote from: onemorexmr on April 20, 2015, 07:27:26 AM

FYI you are now on my trust list.
Quickseller is not and will never be Wink

but i keep Vod; although i dont share his opinion about ms keys (eg. EULAS are worth nothing in my country)
my trust list in case someone is interested in it (suggestions welcome); i use trust depth 1:
...
Luke-Jr
...

...I don't trust anyone that trusts Luke-Jr...

I would suggest having any sort of Default Trust list something that should be Opt-In (read: They have to press a button or select a checkbox in their account preferences to enable Default Trust listings for their account)

Ideally, each user should start with a blank trust list, and build it up themselves over time based on their own experiences here on the forums.

We can't enforce this on newbies. Newbies don't know who to trust and who shouldn't. So default trust list is needed. When they understand more about this trust sytem, they will change their trust list. We shouldn't enforce them to change because there are many people who don't want to change and people who don't care. Persons who know about trust system, alter their trust list.

* Here, Newbies refers to both noobs to Bitcointalk and noobs to trust system.

What Xian01 says is more or less exactly what I argue for in the OP. I know that MZ thinks that default trust is saving the world, one noobie at a time, and this is almost certainly how the trust-rangers our there feel about themselves, but I'm not so convinced. First, if someone is willing to give all their money away without looking into who/why/where etc don't they simply deserve to learn that lesson so that they can be safer in the future? Isn't it the case that any protection they gain from the trust rangers is just temporary and delusional---ie, sooner or later they're going to have to start figuring out the world for themselves, right? I mean just because people are noobies to bitcointalk doesn't mean they aren't rational, self-controlling adults with the sense to decide who and who to not give money to. The idea that noobies are somehow incapable in a way that the rest of us aren't seems spurious to me.