Quote from: erikalui on April 26, 2015, 07:02:21 PM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on April 26, 2015, 06:47:42 PM

Can't you see what TerminatorXL is doing? Posting with an alt. One of the best example. Hope that clears your doubt.

I dint know that the forum is benefiting from TX's posts. Then why they say he is trolling?

I don't think there was an explanation needed for that statement as you(we) were talking about alts not TerminatorXL's post. I said that using alts is indeed helpful for things we need to hide our real accounts. For example, scam busting, drama, going against a person/community etc... TerminatorXL is doing one of the things and it is clearly seen. I don't think I need to explain this further.

Quote from: erikalui on April 26, 2015, 07:02:21 PM

So you mean since accounts are being sold, scams would be less as people will try to investigate before trading/trusting a person?

We need to investigate if we are doing a trade. People will be more careful knowing this fact.

Quote from: erikalui on April 26, 2015, 07:02:21 PM

Does every member here follow this and truly investigate if the account was sold or not? By checking the seclog? Is that enough to know if the account was bought or sold?

Security Log isn't enough. People can't truly know whether an account is sold or not. Only way we can assume is to ask a signed message considering Bitcoin address can be sold.

Quote from: erikalui on April 26, 2015, 07:02:21 PM

If account selling is allowed, why can't there be a list or thread where the account buyer/seller state their trade in open?

Because we can't create a list of full bought/sold accounts and who bought it. Another reason is, having an alt is okay.

Quote from: erikalui on April 26, 2015, 07:02:21 PM

Wouldn't that make it more better and prove that it's worth it?

Don't think so if you think.

Quote from: erikalui on April 26, 2015, 07:02:21 PM

When it happens in the private, why then say that people will move outside the forum/have private transactions which would be worse.

Now we can atleast know some of the sold accounts, what if it took outside forum? Higher chance is for "won't".

Quote from: erikalui on April 26, 2015, 07:02:21 PM

As of now, account selling takes place in private and not in the open. If you are trying to say this decreases scams, sorry to say but it is increasing day in and day out. So many newbies are getting scammed by the same scammer/old scammers as they create new accounts or members have sold their trusted accounts.

Newbies always get scammed as they aren't familar with it but this doesn't mean we shouldn't try to prevent it. The answer is we can't but we can reduce it. Banning sold accounts are not the way, though. Even trusted members turn out to be scammers. It doesn't increase nor decrease by a greater percentage. Both are balanced and trying to change one side will result in bigger problem. Scammers scam. Newbies are being victims as they ain't experienced here. Newbies are victims of most scams IRL too. There is no solution other than wiping scammers which is impossible out there.

Quote from: TerminatorXL on April 26, 2015, 07:02:34 PM

This thread is about accounts being sold, not alt accounts. I have created this account, free of charge.
If you wish to discuss alt accounts, please stop derailing my thread & start your own.

I don't want to discuss about your alts. erikalui asked why alts are allowed and I answered.

Quote from: TerminatorXL on April 26, 2015, 07:02:34 PM

No. A false dichotomy. Covered several times in this very thread.
Knowing that stealing is against the law doesn't make me leave my wallet in the middle of the street. OTOH, since there are IRL cops enforcing laws, I don't sleep with a Glock under my pillow & still get robbed. So I guess I can afford to be less careful.

Leaving a wallet in middle of a street and being less careful is different. Besides, virtual and real is different and we can't compare everything.