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Something else I noticed about the fishy Cryptsy transactions that are involved in Homero's Paycoin Shuffle. No transaction fee's for withdrawals on those transactions in and out of Cryptsy. I have never tried to move XPY out of Cryptsy, but every other coin has always had a fee to withdraw. Does Cryptsy have a no fee policy for XPY? Or is this more indication of collusion between GAW/Homero and Cryptsy?

I've traded various coins on Cryptsy and they all had fees, xpee is/was no exception unless you know ...gawsome.

Our tx fee we charge is based on the mean over the last 1k transactions we have sent. Paycoin allows for fee free transactions. The fee we charge does not mean we pay that to the network for every transaction. But instead is the average that we pay

So, why are there no fees deducted from this account for all of these withdrawals. None. Zero. The exact amount in is the exact amount out, for each transaction and the total of all transactions. No fees deducted at all.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?P9YPFJdBF1ufFuHfCQqjTia6fGJT9fRfP6.htm

So bots buying, selling and transferring without tx fees ?

The outputs are being used in whole to complete other transactions. If you look at the transactions you will see they are combined with more inputs. Fees are bing paid.

Im surprised anyone is taking this as evidence of anything. If you know how to read a block explorer this is perfectly normal activity

Repeatedly depositing ridiculously small amounts of coins and then immediately withdrawing them to recombine with other coins that come from Homero's stash that are being mixed and shuffled is "perfectly normal". WTF?

Learn how to read a blockchain and come back with a valid argument. Check my edits above

I was not commenting about the fee in that post, perhaps you should learn to read English. Why is it perfectly normal for tiny amounts of coins to be deposited in Cryptsy addresses and then IMMEDIATELY withdrawn and combined with coins from non-Cryptsy addresses that directly tie back to the same source (Homero&Co) of the deposited coins? Does Homero have control of Cryptsy wallets so that he can combine coins going in and out of Cryptsy with raw unmixed pre-mine coins?

They are combined with ALL cryptsy transactions. The block explorer your using doesnt have the ability to tag all cryptsy addresses. These are withdrawals from our hot wallet. Inputs are combined pretty much at random to make the best outputs

The only thing you have proved is those withdrawals came from our hot wallet

Why is it that this withdrawal is perfectly timed with and includes EXACTLY a very small amount (1.41XPY)deposited from the largest wallet in existence? You are saying that EXACTLY 1.41 XPY was needed to make an even 20,000XPY withdrawal at the EXACT same time that EXACTLY 1.41 XPY was deposited? Quite a coincidence.

Inputs are chosen at random. We cannot control that unless we build raw transactions which is unnessecary for the system we have.

It was not needed to complete that withdrawal. It could have chosen others. But it was likely an ideal input to create the smallest transaction.

That is quite an amazing coincidence. A group of 250,000 XPY left an address with over 2,000,000XPY and was shuffled through a dozen addresses and then made a 1.41XPY (YES-one point four one) deposit to a Cryptsy address, and at the EXACT same time a withdrawal of 20,000XPY was made, which happens to end up in the same addresses controlled by the person controlling the wallet from which that 1.41 XPY came from. Please, keep talking. Keep pissing on everybody here and telling us it is raining. I think you know exactly what is going on and eventually you will make a mistake that will allow you to be exposed as part of this scheme.

Think what you want I dont know why I tried in the first place. You obviously will not listen to reason

Fuck what I think. The Blockchain says what I stated is true, that is, a group of 250,000XPY was taken from the #1 richest wallet two days ago. 200,000 was parked in a new address, and 50,000XPY began a shuffle where small amounts are being siphoned off. One of these siphons was a 1.41XPY deposit made to Cryptsy (because- you know- when you have 2,000,000+ XPY you always deposit 1.41XPY in a new account Roll Eyes

) Immediately after this tiny deposit from the richest address was made, it was scraped into a 20,000XPY withdrawal that leads back to the same person controlling the 2,000,0000XPY wallet. And you say this is normal. I agree, this is actually normal, when we are talking about Homero laundering his Pre-mined XPY through Cryptsy.

P.S: Thank you for verifying what I knew but had no proof of, that is that these other addresses that are being used to siphon off amounts from these shuffle groups are in fact Cryptsy addresses, I will try to make good use of this information, thank you very much.

If their end goal was to launder 1.41 XPY ( less than $1 ) then they did a good job of making it look like an average user getting a payout from a service. Likely a GAW service.

The end goal is to launder MILLIONS of XPY through tens of thousands if tiny transactions and thanks in no small part to Cryptsy it is working. I chose one of the tiniest deposits coming from the largest Paycoin address as an example so that it is perfectly clear that this is NOT a normal thing to do. I am confident that the people you are trying to fool here can figure out what is going on, despite your failed attempts to bullshit everyone.