Quote from: smooth on April 27, 2015, 04:02:40 PM

Quote from: MasterMined710 on April 27, 2015, 03:56:17 PM

this is gonna get ugly. no coins have had perfectly fair launches or have "fair" initial distribution including bitcoin.

You're using the wrong standard. The standard is not "perfectly fair" it is "significantly premined."

CMC seems to think that an instamine of 35% in one day counts as that. I think they should clarify the tag and make it "significantly premined or instamined", but that's up to them.

I disagree with your statement that instamined doesn't have a clear definition. It has a reasonable common sense definition and plain English definition that means "mined extremely fast" just as "significantly" has such a definition. I don't know what criteria CMC uses for "significantly" though.

saying 35% was instamined is inaccurate because you are talking about the "current coin supply" and not the "total coin supply".
you are using a moving target as your metric which is not very smart and quite deceptive. in that case monero has a 15-20% instamine. some say monero is still being instamined due to the highly inflationary distribution curve...

Quote from: coins101 on April 27, 2015, 05:05:59 PM

Quote from: smooth on April 27, 2015, 04:41:20 PM

Quote from: coins101 on April 27, 2015, 04:37:15 PM

1% or 35%.

Maybe you should ask coinmarketcap if they think 1% is "significantly" anything. Then ask them about 35%.

I have a feeling they put that word "significantly" there for a reason, but I don't really know.

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Between us friends, lets just call that instamined.

No let's not call that instamined because, you know, words have meanings.

OK. Lets revert.

You, as one of the core devs of Monero, around from practically launch day, as far as I can tell, have openly said Monero was purposefully deoptimized from launch.

You may not have known, but the fact is you have said it was scam launched.

Those coins were not burned and you didn't relaunch, for whatever reason - probably the high emission rate benefiting the early adopters, but who really knows.

Monero will have fewer maxcoins than DASH, yet despite launching 3-4 months after Darkcoin, Monero now has 7.4m coins vs DASH at 5.3m

I don't know why I keep trying to be civil with you.

So lets remember what you said about the Monero scam launch with a deoptimized miner that you have, by your deeds as a core dev, condoned:

Quote from: coins101 on April 27, 2015, 04:37:15 PM

Quote from: smooth on April 27, 2015, 02:47:59 PM

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I don't agree that a few percent of the coins mined by someone who optimized the miner is "significantly" instamined or premined. If we restrict it to the period before the obviously deliberate de-optimization was remove then it is probably 1% or less.-snip-