OK lets take the Apollo miner to start with. Here is something that was basically a couple of hashfast boards strapped into a PC case. Not hard, should be able to sell loads right?

Check this forum, its got some of the most prolific home and small business community miners around, and how many enthusiasts got an Apollo? None, zilch, nada.

OK check ebay, check ebay history, see how many Apollo miners got sold there once they became inefficient, can you guess? Not one. Check the for sale forum here, none there either.

The only person who got an Apollo that I trust recieved it was Dogie, but what I don't believe is that there is anyone else other than a handful of shills and puppet accounts that got anything SHA256 related.

Add to that the chip specs for their high end miners are fantasy land fabrications and None of it adds up.

What does add up is that every person who says they got a rebadged scrypt miner from these guys which is most people who say they got one, or cloud mining (*cough* ponzi *cough*) in lieu of hardware gives hope to suckers, and they don't need many suckers to keep going and making money, just a couple a month who give them a few grand.

Thats why we advise caution and not sending money to some company that promises something thats too good to be true, because it damages the reputation of other bitcoin hardware companies that and the very ecosystem itself. We aren't doing this because we have a grudge or a vendetta against HashCoins, ffs, I'd be first in line as would most of the experienced people on this board, if there really was a machine with the specs of a Uranus actually out there and running.