Quote from: suchmoon on April 27, 2015, 07:35:58 PM

Quote from: Paul Revere on April 27, 2015, 07:19:34 PM

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Quote from: Paul Revere on April 27, 2015, 07:08:12 PM

From the discussion about the anonymously posted Prime Controller keys it seems that when transferring a PC from one person to another there is nothing keeping the original owner from using the same key afterwards. Is this correct? Also, is it possible for the first owner to access the coins in the new address after a transfer? I am specifically wondering if this is the proof that the whole mutiny story and theft of Paycoins/Prime Controllers from Homero is bullshit.

As far as I understand, keeping a copy of a key is possible, it's actually nearly impossible to ensure that a copy is not kept. But no, it does not give access to coins. The coins would have be transferred via a regular blockchain transaction.

Hmmm. Somewhere here is the proof that the theft/hack of coins and Prime Controllers from Homero is all a bullshit misdirection/ washing the scam of Homero Stank scheme. I mean, at minimum Homero could have simply made new Prime Controllers to replace those that were "stolen", and then simply say that the others were stolen and his are legit. I know that most or all of the mutiny story is bullshit and that the whole shitshow is still controlled directly or indirectly by the same scamdog that has been running it all along. I thought at some point it was announced by one of the "Not Josh" gangs that the ~4,600,000 XPY address that appeared after the hack belonged to them, is that true? If so, that might be the path to proof.

TBH I'm losing track of all these happenings, but I think part of the deal between Josh and Matt Eden's business (forgot its name) was that ZenCloud and Paybase EOL will be taken care of by Matt, which included paying out customers' coins so Josh gave up control of that and later declared it as a hack. There was also a rumor that Josh expected to do a hard fork and regain the control after the deal was signed, not sure how much truth there is in that.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that it is entirely possible that Josh doesn't have any control of anything right now and that's pissing him off tremendously. As for the credibility of Team XPY, foundations of all sorts and other entities that sprung up in the aftermath - time will tell. I think you're correct in being skeptical but Garza's involvement might not be as significant as you think. He might still be working with Vadala, although there is another rumor that Vadala took Garza's 15 PCs and is not acting friendly.

Paul Revere and Josh are the only two individuals who seem to think Josh controls anything more than hashtalk censoring.