Quote from: AntiCap on August 22, 2012, 07:05:02 AM

Quote from: myrkul on August 22, 2012, 05:27:24 AM

Quote from: AntiCap on August 22, 2012, 04:58:18 AM

Quote from: myrkul on August 21, 2012, 10:39:39 PM

The problem is the fact that the roads, and other public property, are equally owned by everyone. The speeder has just as much right to do whatever he wants on the road as anyone else. All of this is solved by making roads private property. Then you can place whatever restrictions on their use that you want. In the meantime, don't impede the man's right to use his property as he sees fit, unless he harms someone else.

So if I get this straight this is your position.
So as a group we aren't allowed to impose our will on 49% because that would be oppression if we collectively own the road, and that would be wrong. But a single person that owns it could impose his will on +99,9% of the population and that would be fine?

It's his property. If I came over to your house, what would your opinion of me be if I took a shit on your carpet? Would you let me stick around? Or would you kick me out for it? If you would kick me out, what right gives you the ability to impose your will on everyone else on the planet, preventing them from crapping there?

Right, so if we own this apartment complex together, and you have an apartment there, there's no way the rest of us can stop you from crapping on the floor in the common areas?

AntiCap,

Don't waste your time. You may not like his opinion, but myrkul is at least consistent in his opinion. He is willing to let a shooter use a public childrens park as a shooting range while children are playing there, and he is willing to let his next door neighbor turn his privately owned home in a residential neighborhood into a high explosive factory. You aren't going to come up with an example that will convince him he is wrong. You aren't going to change his mind on the matter. On public property anyone can do anything they want, and can't be punished until they cause actual harm. On private property the owner can do anything they want. On shared ownership private property the owners can do anything that isn't contractually forbidden among the owners.

On the other hand, if you are beginning to find his point of view persuasive, you may want to continue the conversation. I feel pretty confident that myrkl, and a few others in this forum, would be interested in continuing your education in the matter.