Quote from: TheButterZone on May 16, 2015, 07:49:06 AM

Would Vod, like me, have been wiped off the trust map entirely because 1) THAT libeler is special 2) no other libeler in Vod's opinion, appears to be special enough to wipe him 3) Vod doesn't believe himself to be "protected"?

this was my final edit, you can quote safely now

No, he wouldn't be wiped off the trust list. He would be allowed to continue to abuse his position on the default trust as he has been. The fact that I called out his repeated abuse and claim staff are protecting him from being removed is the claimed "lie" about him. He feels this warrants him leaving a negative rating for me, and demonstrates he does not abuse the trust system for personal vendettas. By all accounts my claims are true, because he has REPEATEDLY done things that others have been removed for, for doing ONCE and for much more defensible reasons. Yet he can not demonstrate that my statements are "lies" or how they harmed him. He couldn't even quote the supposed lie even after several pages of avoiding requests for him to produce it. Then when he did he quoted a statement that was made AFTER he left the rating!

Quote from: cropmaster on May 16, 2015, 02:34:50 AM

Quote from: Vod on May 16, 2015, 12:17:09 AM

Quote from: cropmaster on May 16, 2015, 12:11:31 AM

Quote from: Vod on May 15, 2015, 11:59:32 PM

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It's easy to complain.

It's a lot more difficult to come up with something better.

Many better alternatives have been proposed and rejected. Like getting rid of "default trust," for starters.
Is that the sort of thing you're looking for?

Default trust serves its purpose for helping new members avoid scams. It may not be perfect but it's the best we have.

Any data to back that up, or just a guess?
I always thought Bitcoiners weren't into nanny-state protecting us from ourselves? You realize that's exactly what the default trust is, right? A guy at the top deciding what's good for everyone, those who know what's good for them agree and become the next tier down, the rest, if they know what's good for them, suck up to the second tier and get their green treets.
If they suck good enough and long enough, one day they too may get on tier 2 default trust.

I, personally, no longer give a fuck about this place. It's hit the scumbaggery critical mass a while ago, it's no longer about bitcoin. It's about making money off bitcoin, about *selling* warez & hacked accounts, about loansharking and getting pickpocketed in the lending section, about running second-rate scams in the "securities" section, about buying and selling accounts, about posting shit just to get paid from a sig ad, about running ponzis and about fucking moron marks who "play" them.

Thanks for protecting n00bs tho.

Without the endless supply of noobs, and the default trust system to give them a false sense of security, how could anyone scam around here? The endless flow of noobs is how the staff here get their pay along with the scammers. Who needs a communty that thinks and acts for itself when you could just have a giant pool of fresh rubes to dictate to and skim off of. They don't give a shit about anyone who isn't paying them tribute. Its like the old days of the fire department, unless you are giving them kickbacks they will just sit and watch your house burn to the ground (or throw the match).