Quote from: Xialla on May 19, 2015, 09:18:13 AM

Hey there,

I just want to ask you, if you think that we need this section on this forum and what is purpose? Concentrate scammers and frauds to one place?

Yes we need it, its purpose is to distinguish the ponzi style games from other forms of gambling. It is possible that these games are indeed that, a game. They are not provably fair, or at least I have not seen a variant that is, but that does not mean the operator is scamming.

Quote from: Xialla on May 19, 2015, 09:18:13 AM

In last couple of days, I start observing the section daily and spend couple of hours here. ALL (and yes, I'm not aware using word ALL here) threads here had just one purpose and it is steal people bitcoin, lure them to invest BTC and vanish.

Even you can say, that it is problem of those guys, which decided to invest..it is just throwing really bad impression to whole bitcoin, just because those scammed people are also real people from real world and they have to exchange their earned money to BTC. And then they lost them..and you know what. They will just say "bitcoin is scam" instead of "somebody scammed me". I really think that negative effect of this subsection is much higher then positive one (if there is any)
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You dont get into that section by accident, it has a big red warning attached to it. If that is not helping, banning those kind of games is neither.

Quote from: Xialla on May 19, 2015, 10:25:49 AM

Quote from: NeuroticFish on May 19, 2015, 09:48:13 AM

Also, this way you can easily set in your profile to not see that area anymore, which you just reminded me to do Grin

wow really this is possible? so what about hide this section for all new acc and had some warning message before enabling it..?

also..how to make in invisible?

Blatantly censoring a section is not a good solution. If newbie dont know the section exists they can not make a choice.

Quote from: XinXan on May 19, 2015, 11:53:51 AM

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Because ponzi is the definition of scam, you can just search on wikipedia, it will tell you its a scam, if you search roulette or dice it doesnt say its a scam. Provably fair and odds, what are your odds on ponzies? Uncertain, no one knows, the owner could run any minute with your money.

Its like smoking, its bad and everyone knows it, yet people chose to do it, but that doesnt make it a good thing, it only makes them stupid

There are many luck based games where you can tell the odds in advance. Not knowing the odds does not equal scam. Gambling is not inherently bad, neither is smoking, both are only bad if you have no control over it. If you smoke once in a blue moon you are not living unhealthy. If you gamble recreational with small controlled amount and you are aware of the risks involved you are not an idiot.

Besides one should be able to make a deliberate choice to ruin oneself, be that through gambling or through drugs. Prohibition is not going to change what people do it is at best hindering the flow of information.

Quote from: doves on May 19, 2015, 12:55:48 PM

1. Buy a trusted senior account.
2. Start a ~~ponzi~~ cloud mining on Bitcointalk.
3. ? ? ?
4. Wonder why Bitcoin gets horrible press.

Lets get rid of the service section while we are at it.

Quote from: doves on May 19, 2015, 12:55:48 PM

1. Buy a trusted senior account.
2. Start a ~~ponzi~~ credit card fraud on Bitcointalk.
3. ? ? ?
4. Wonder why Bitcoin gets horrible press.

digital goods gone

Quote from: doves on May 19, 2015, 12:55:48 PM

1. Buy a trusted senior account.
2. Start a ~~ponzi~~ scam coin on Bitcointalk.
3. ? ? ?
4. Wonder why Bitcoin gets horrible press.

blow away the alt coin section. All hail the nanny state.

Quote from: XinXan on May 19, 2015, 04:51:07 PM

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The problem is not the section, is allowing these kind of trash on the forum at all, just fucking ban every thread that promotes a ponzi, easy as that, no need for a section for it, but probably mods are going to come and say "its too hard to moderate all ponzies" or "we dont have time to delete all ponzies" wich is bullshit, i doubt it takes that much time to totally delete each of those ponzi threads

The staff does not get involved in these matters. It would allow misuse and would result in a false sense of security for the users. This cloud mining site must be legit, the staff did not delete it yet.

Quote from: XinXan on May 19, 2015, 05:09:17 PM

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Damn you always find a way to make them stay unmoderated, dont you, with you im refering to everyone. First of all, if you wanto cloud mine you ahould be doing it only on already trusted sites, how else can they even come like?? I dnt get your point at all.

Are you going to decide who is trustworthy and who is not? Without fail, in advance, for everything?