Quote from: SaltySpitoon on May 19, 2015, 06:12:05 PM

Scam: (transitive) to swindle (someone) by means of a trick

No one here is being tricked. If you know what the word Ponzi means, and you invest in a site named Ponzi, is that not willingly investing and not being tricked? I agree that Gambling sites are the exact same thing, you just play them in different ways. Provably fair and such are just buzz words. It doesn't mean that the odds are fair, it just means that they give you the odds, and you agree to those odds before playing. Traditional casinos and such aren't a scam, but they aren't provably fair.

I don't see why people want to censor things rather than just allow people to use their own judgement. I agree that hidden ponzi schemes are a scam, but all of these just come right out and say they are ponzis, no false expectations, no tricks, not a scam. If someone puts money in and get burnt, what is the difference between then putting money into a dice game and losing? And before you say odds, just because Ponzis don't have published odds, doesn't mean that you can't calculate your own odds.

So if i come here and say im going to launch a lottery, 0.01 each ticket, if you get lucky you might win 1 bitcoin but im not going to tell you the odds and it is not certain if anyone will win. Thats not a scam to you because i stated clearly how it works?