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The power to tax is the power to destroy. I think income tax and property tax are just wrong. What do you think?

I think, being part of a community puts certain responsibilities on the 'participants' of the community, and since we as a members of a society have repeatedly failed to think beyond our personal propaganda you have to be 'taxed' to maintain your ecosystem.
Thoughts?

That's right.
But, how does one become part of a community?
How close do you have to live to another person to become part of a community with him?
If a group of people form a community, how close do you have to live to them before you become part of their community?
If the people say that anyone living within x miles of a certain point are part of their community, what gives them the right?
If people say that they are going to tax all people living inside certain borders, what gives them the right?

Somebody said might makes right. Might might make what exists, but why does it make it right?

If someone is tricked into signing a compact to pay taxes, especially when he doesn't realize that he signed such, or what it is he signed, is that right?
So, what are the terms of the community?

Community stuff, and taxation stuff, is simply people stating what will be done to other people (and maybe themselves so that things look good). That is a form of slavery.

Show exactly where the tax money of any individual person went, and the receipt for the exact benefit any individual received for the money he paid in taxes. You can't. It was pooled. And the funds went to pay for all kinds of stuff that any particular individual would say is wrong, all because somebody else decided that he had to pay taxes, and decided the way they were to be spent. That is a form of slavery.

You see the definition of right and wrong is highly relative. Tax isn't a gift bestowed upon mankind or an evil or a form of slavery as you aptly suggest. It's somewhere in between, things involving the welfare of humankind brings about a lot of grey areas. It's not black or white or right and wrong. There's a lot of grey.
About defining a community, the world is vast. And a community is defined as a small population sharing something in common. Since there are millions of people, it's impossible for all of humanity to have a similar outlook on everything and here comes the role of community heads or governments. All, I'm trying to say is, think of it as the cost of being able to live harmoniously with people around you.

Now you are talking a protection racket.