Quote from: TPTB_need_war on May 31, 2015, 05:06:46 AM

Quote from: cypherdoc on May 31, 2015, 04:59:39 AM

Quote from: TPTB_need_war on May 31, 2015, 04:27:23 AM

Quote from: cypherdoc on May 31, 2015, 04:22:13 AM

Excuse me but exactly what scientific method have you brought to the table except for some lunatic ravings of a mentor you hold in high esteem? Along with some such drivel about immutable economic laws?

Since you haven't bothered to read and analyze, of course you've entirely missed the presentation.

You've put it in your mind that Armstrong has not compiled 6000 years of history and you've tuned out the data.

So what I can do with a person who has covered his eyes and ears and yet says there is no data?

no, you don't even bother to consider that you've been captured by a seller of newsletters and now conferences who has capitalized on the cult of fear so common these days. they prey on weak-minded, mentally impaired ppl like you who cower in fear everyday and are afraid of their own shadows.

you can't even see the lunacy of the scenario you've painted. it is totally illogical.

Again you completely refuse to provide any specific analysis what has been presented. Instead you ad hominem attack a person and ignore the substance of what has been presented.

That a noise and trolling methodology you are employing.

Debate requires addressing the specific arguments that have been presented.

If you want to refute me, you must address the historical account of the Federal Reserve that Armstrong has written. You must address my explanation of the Iron Law of Political Economics. You must address the fact that people have been borrowing money for 5000 years with inexorably declining interest rates.

These are all repeating and naturally occurring phenomena that are documented, but you refuse to address them.

i already addressed those things. and i said you got it backwards.

we know this b/c of what happened in 2008. who got bailed out? the banksters or the ppl who took the loans? ans: the banksters. and that is precisely b/c the ppl with the loans were not in fact in control and demanding of the loans they received; they were hoodwinked into taking easy no doc loans by banksters who knew they were going to win no matter what happened. as it turned out, they rode the loan mkt up with mark to market and when the market turned around they subverted the rule of law and went to mark to model. then, when the shit really hit the fan, they went before Congress and threatened to blow up the whole economy unless they received bailouts. and who went to bat for them in this time of crisis according to the playbook? Bernanke, Paulson, & Geithner. so the banksters got bailed out despite 80% disapproval by the American public, ordinary ppl lost their homes, the toxic debt got shifted over to the Fed and the American ppl got their USD debased by $4T in new money printing. the gvt has since more than doubled the national debt to re-pump stocks to the banksters benefit. so just who is in control? certainly not the ppl as you suggest.

and you expect all of us to believe that TPTB are going to just give up this ideal system they control with a free printing press while they roll the dice with a system that has the potential to ruin their party? how risky and insane is that? and then somehow they will hit the Digital Kill Switch and drive us all into a Great Depression? so what monetary system takes over when that happens? what happens to all their big corporate partners? what will all the banks do? what a crock.