Quote from: cryptodevil on June 03, 2015, 03:06:29 PM

Quote from: QuestionAuthority on June 03, 2015, 02:40:32 PM

Interesting. So you think all of the things they teach you in church about what not to do isn't what God wants but instead its man controlling man?

Firstly, they don't 'teach' anything in church, they simply indoctrinate into their dogmatic belief system. You don't need to be told that god disapproves of you molesting your infant sisters to know that you have no right to do such a thing to them.

Quote from: QuestionAuthority on June 03, 2015, 02:40:32 PM

Do you think Josh Dugger was wrong to touch his sisters naughty bits if the sisters didn't stop him? Was the Puritan father wrong to turn his son into the police for doing it? Does God not care about that shit?

Firstly, there were a few instances where Josh Duggar sexually assaulted those girls, sometimes they were asleep, sometimes they were not, every single time, however, they *were* sufficiently brainwashed into believing the patriarchal power he held over them that they simply complained to their dad, who claims they had a 'family meeting' on the first instance of it being reported to him and, on the second a few months later, they took him to 'Church Elders' and eventually a cop who was a good friend of Jim Duggar. A cop, coincidentally, who is currently serving 56 years for possessing extreme child abuse imagery.

So, irrespective of what any 'god' might care about, something we have no basis to assert, *we* the decent human-beings who do not need our morality defined by illiterate bronze-age goat-herders, recognise that the psychologically toxic environment within that family and within that 'Quiverfull' religious sect, leads to raising dysfunctional children with neuropsychiatric disorders.

That is what we care about, taking steps to stand up against the continued normalisation of a parent or organisation's religious 'right' to damage children to the degree they cannot help but harm others.

I agree with everything you said.