Quote from: SolarSilver on June 05, 2015, 11:22:06 AM

Quote from: armyof1ne on June 04, 2015, 06:09:02 PM

I don't know what rock you live under, but the substrate contractor that made multiple revisions was less than intelligent, however management kept using him instead of replacing him until last revision(which didn't even happen if memory serves)
All the problems they had were due to crappy work and the shituation we are in is due to them trying to remake new/better revisions and just creating more problems... basically throwing our money away.
Of all the boards shipped and sierras shipped, i would assume around 90% failed due to power supply/damage from it going, the rest due to faulty board design, i can't image many boards are functional at this point.
The chips are just fine, they been proven to work on actual boards that were designed by someone with actual intelligence.

I'm not sure if you are trying to defend HF or point out why they failed so bad...

Did the HF customers decide to go with a bad substrate contractor? Or did management?

Most boards have failed because of cooling issues, not power supply. Is it a good design if cooling is so difficult?

What is the point of having a great chip if you can't get it to the end user in a working setup? I bought a miner, not a chip

And from what I ordered, the majority was never delivered. What did arrive, ran crippled and all but one board failed by now.

People like Edwardo, Simon, iCEBREAKER and cypherdoc lined their pockets and they are getting away scot-free

Which side are you on?

I'm on the side of the people that got screwed over by greedy, afraid, cowards that used that fear to push an agenda that was in NOBODIES interests.
I understand the failure, i knew how to fix the problem and had the means thanks to investors that saw the opportunity...
Once the petitioners went balls deep, ignoring reason, that was no longer an option.
I'm on the side that got "scammed" by fear and ignorance... Which is the side of every single creditor, whether they understand that or not.
You won't see one single petitioner be humble enough to admit they fucked up... those people are 1000x worse than hashfast ever was...
Hashfast was just terrible management... straight up. if they were full on balls deep scam, they wouldn't have a functional chip.
The chips were the only thing they actually did right, which is why this whole clusterfuck is so sad... they had the chance to do extremely well, but stupidity won.

i can sit here and argue for days about how bad hashfast fucked up... The PSU's are what was causing the cooling system to fail, the variance in voltages supplied were bouncing around like a bipolar kid on crack.
People that replaced the PSU's with ones that were actually decent didn't have many issues and the cooling systems didn't fail, those that did, they upgraded to better cooling equipment.
This is shit that should have been hardcore tested out the door, but since they already had board issues and people breathing down their neck, they just pushed out a shitty product... rip all those chips out and put them on well designed boards, with proper power and cooling and like some form of voodoo, you would have had a decent product.

That one board that didn't fail of yours, pull out a multimeter, check it yourself... you will begin to understand im not just some crazy raving asshat(i may be an asshat, but not crazy or raving) I actually know what i am talking about. When the board starts drawing, you will see dips in all the voltages, Large dips, up to 1 volt difference (normally around 0.6 V+-) which is just barely out of spec (normal variance maximum is about 0.5 V-+.

As for buying a fully complete product, i 100% agree with you, you got a product, you shouldn't have to deal with understanding how it works and why(though i always make it my goal to do so, some people do not have the drive to understand as i do)
I am just showing you WHY that "product" failed, both from a company standpoint and hardware wise. as well as why i have issues with the petitioners.