Quote from: bitwise-shifted on June 12, 2015, 09:37:29 AM

Quote from: EFLisTheBest on June 12, 2015, 08:10:24 AM

Quote from: bitwise-shifted on June 12, 2015, 07:49:51 AM

While talking about choices and comparing coins

There will be 21M EFL (open) ever, against 1680M NLG, nowhere to find on the official website
NLG blocktime should be 150 seconds, while it is at >250 seconds for months now.
EFL was first 19 march 2014, NLG second 29 march 2014
NLG, pretending to target the same community, disrupted the sense of scarcity by providing a seemingly similar coin but 80 times the quantity while obscuring this on their website(see first bullet), frustrating the original EFL dev's that started dumping until EFL was taken over and stabilized by the Electronic Gulden Foundation.
NLG clearly seized dutch identity by using the original Dutch guilder as their logo, pretending to be a country coin, but exploiting this in the Bitcoin community for example by using english everywhere.
While Electronic Gulden Foundation was educating dutch citizens by providing numerous dutch publications about the virtues of cryptocurrency and their functions, they were harassed by NLG-adepts on threads like this

All right, I could go on and on, but that is waste of energy (one retrospection a year should be enough). EFL and NLG are just cryptocoins with their own challenges, as all Altcoins thrive on the works of Satoshi. It is better to put all effort into positive thinking, which is about improving functionality and educating and motivating people. Not about pretending to be the best.

The big problem EFL has is that 99% of the coins are with the foundation and with less then 10 people. Those 10 people have to do all the work to make this coin work,the reason why NLG doing so well is because a lot of people own coins and willing to help. When the original developers dumped the coins they put a lot of them into a few buyers hands, I can't see how you can defend the original developers who put EFL in this mess, from scammers to saints all of a sudden? That is a very poor excuse to say the original developers dumped because they were harassed. No they dumped because they wanted to make money off people like us. They are ASSHOLES!

I gave you six bullets. You respond to only one of them, by repeating the same thing we have heard many times before. Grow up and look at the facts. You cannot look in anybodie's wallet. There are 3500 newsletter subscribers, more than one thousand wallets have been downloaded this year only. If you say "99% ...are" and "less then 10" you sound scientific but you are not. Please look forward and contribute instead of calling people names. We know your opinion now.

You have heard it so many times because it's the biggest problem with EFL, this will never change no matter what happens, everyone think it start off as a scam accepts for people who hold lots of EFL and this is something you will have to live with but EFL team need to stop using excuses and start developing, you are falling far behind the rest of the crypto world in development.

I only see this now after looking at NLG and other coins.