Quote from: barabbas on June 14, 2015, 06:59:48 PM

Quote from: jc12345 on June 14, 2015, 02:09:45 PM

Quote from: barabbas on June 14, 2015, 11:47:26 AM

Riddle me this Batman that I'm a bit confused here and on the verge of a hysterics attack: How is it possible that this idiot would hope to sell a single unit of this crap at 120k sat when there's a grand total of 2.482BTC on the bid, ALL of it ranging from a top of 60k (HALF the pretended price) to a bottom of 10 satoshis? Ain't life just a hoot? Wow...

Now, watch for a magic "investor" appearing with a handful of BTC paying those 120k on pre-order... in case the offer sells off...

Now, when people REALLY want to be scammed, shouldn't they just be?

You make quite a point Riddler, quite a point...

barabbas, it seems that you are carrying on with your attempts to sabotage this project that shows promise, by spreading, fud, baseless accusations which if unproven are lies. This is crypto and there is always risk and by the mere fact of participating in crypto one knows the risk one is taking. The devs for this project have delivered much more so far than most other projects which reduces the risk. Lets look at this based on the facts at hand:

Your argument seems to be around the 400k coins at 120k sats to raise ~500BTC. You keep referring to the stupid (moronic) action from the dev to do this as he will never get it. You also say that the dev is manipulating the price as well as that he is doing this project only to get access to actionable trading information.

I have attached a screenshot right at the bottom which you keep overlooking which is very clearly posted on the OP, indicating that the number of coins and price was a community decision and not that of the dev. Based on the poll, the community voted for 400k @ 120k sats. Personally I voted for 100k @ 75k as that is more realistic imo. However, as shown by the poll outcome the option of 400k @ 120k sats won by far. I accept the outcome and therefore support the community in this regard. As a matter of principle I would be upset if the dev gets a mandate from the community and then do something different. This evidence clearly renders any of your claims, accusations and references to the number of coins and price thereof, the devs involvement in the choice and anything else related to it as baseless and unsubstantiated. Just the mere fact that you base your whole argument on the number of coins and price without reference to the poll and the mandate by the community makes your whole case fall flat. Unless you can prove that the dev acted on his own with the placement with its current specs your argument does not hold water.

The dev mentioned that he bought coins on the market. He did not say that he is manipulating the price. It can also be one of the other 30 voters that are buying selling coins that would like to see the placement succeed or even just a price increase based on normal trading. Unless you can provide confidential trading records from Bittrex that indicates ALL trades at the current levels are from the devs account, your accusations are just speculation.

I expect you to provide evidence that the poll did not happen, the confidential trading records as well as evidence that the dev is doing this only to get access to actionable trading information because without it, your accusations are baseless, lies, fud and typical of that of a troll that is trying to wreck a project that shows promise and the way you state your case just plan rude and inappropriate. You are so confident with your accusations that you keep returning and posting them again and again which seems to indicate that you have the evidence at hand. You have already caused damage in that you probably scared away investors for the current placement. I will be reporting my own post to the moderators and that I have requested this evidence from you. If you can provide the evidence then I will apologise and follow your warnings. If you cannot provide the evidence, I would request the moderators to take action against you as a fudder, lier, troll and saboteur if they agree with me. If you cannot provide evidence to support your claim them stay away from this thread.

I am so far satisfied with the way that the dev team has handled things with MTR and ToshiDesk and it seems much more professional and refreshing than most other offerings in the alt-coin market.

Screenshot from OP for your reference and convenience:

"Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in...!"

Under the obviously false pretense that you are defending a project which is somehow made up better than most other altcoins -as if that, even if it were the case, which it isn't- were any kind of justification to support it, rather than pointing to what could made this project something of any advancement of value -which, evidently, you can't-, all you keep repeating, again and again, is that the dev has so far delivered in his promises... which is a very sad statement because it implies something true (that 90+% of other developers do not deliver on their promises), and something false (since he has blatantly manipulated the price since day one), the latter actually denying the former in form and content.

But, even worse, you keep defending your money invested in this crap -and only that- by again pretending that even what "the riddler" posted, which was not just true but EXACTLY TRUE at the time of posting, is something not even worth mentioning... which makes all your statements, sir, bastardized by your GREED. Because you cannot ignore these FACTS: 1.- that there has never been any interest in the crypto community for this project, as evidenced by the less than paltry sums (supposedly) raised in the previous two tranches, EVEN THOUGH bot- I repeat: both- were MANIPULATED and bought in part by the dev. But, even if you -as is the case- pretend to assume that the two were on the up and up, you cannot deny that TODAY, as -again- evidence with the almost absolute lack of demand, even AT HALF THE PRICE AND MUCH BELOW "voted" -more in a moment on that one- for the 3rd tranche, there's a shocking lack of interest since it is more than probable that those paltry 2BTC belong to people already invested in this project. There's no project in all of crypto, the 700 and some projects, that can sport such lack of interest when compared apples to apples, meaning in this time since they came to market. Not a single one. Not even the obvious rip offs -such as, for instance, Ripoff coin-. None. But you keep, conveniently -and very stupidly, sorry- ignoring that. Which, once again, under your rhetoric pretense, render all of your posts simply self-serving and, ultimately, bastardized. As the whole project is. In other more plainsman words: Your shit, sir, does't hold ANY water, ok?

You also seem to want to play poker with a pro... which is, again, laughable: You want me to give you a laundry list on how to manipulate voting results in BTCTalk polls? You cannot be serious, can you? I have been telling you about the not just obvious and blatant but admitted manipulation of the price (and volume) by the dev and you pretend that the results of the voting was not manipulated by the dev? Even though that result was so outrageously above what the -ALSO MANIPULATED- price was in the markets at the time? (voice of McEnroue: you CANNOT be serious! sir...

Oh please, please, report away. It is good for reference, so the moderator here has a gist of who and for what is doing the reporting...

Meanwhile, other than mentioning again what you voted for (which is outrageous in and out of himself given the considerations expressed above), how about answering with a minimum of decency, with a minimum of honesty -what a stretch ah?-, the questions posed by "The Ridler"? Fat chance ah?

Geez man still here? You have been reported to the moderators. Please leave this thread.