Quote from: Beliathon on June 19, 2015, 01:29:36 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on June 19, 2015, 10:09:23 AM

What topic are we discussing again?

Have you never participated in a debate before? They often meander. When they don't wander, arguments tend to quickly devolve into folks arguing the same points and counterpoints in circles with one another.

Quote from: TECSHARE on June 19, 2015, 10:09:23 AM

I guess you are just so many light years evolved from us "conversatards" that you no longer have a need any longer to follow the same premise

More fascistic ignorance, what a surprise. This is an internet forum, as such no one is required to accept anyone else's premises, we are each free to dispute or reject any premise of our choosing. Actually that's sort of the point. I note that you've failed to dispute a single one of my premises in your post, only attacked me personally. Weak.

I'm no more evolved than anyone else here, but at least I understand how argument works.

"If you lead, they will follow"

Are you sure you are having a debate? Because to me it looks like you are simply using this discussion as a venue to push your own belief systems rather than discuss the actual topic everyone else is discussing. That's how debates work, there is a premise and the validity of it is debated. If you aren't following the premise, then you are simply just talking at everyone while completely ignoring what anyone else is talking about. Debates go both ways, you are just ignoring the topic of discussion and dictating to everyone else what you think is a better premise to discuss because it supports your own ideals. This isn't an exchange, this is you dictating the topic of discussion to everyone else while claiming I am doing the same by pointing out you aren't even following the topic of discussion.

Quote from: Beliathon on June 19, 2015, 09:17:48 PM

Quote from: Lethn on June 19, 2015, 08:55:07 PM

where did all the real communists go?

Murdered or sent to gulag/prisons/concentration camps by Germany, USSR, and USA in the 40s and 50s.

Yeah but mostly in communist Russia.