Quote from: tvbcof on June 23, 2015, 04:56:44 PM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 23, 2015, 11:54:41 AM

Quote from: Okurkabinladin on June 23, 2015, 11:14:23 AM

Somebody is hellbent on turning western Europe into third world shithole and those migrants sure as hell have neither capital, nor organization or common ideological ground to pull it off.

Not only Western Europe, the North America, Oceania (Australia and New Zealand), as well as countries in the Eastern Europe (Macedonia, Montenegro.etc) are witnessing unprecedented changes in their demographic makeup. A few countries in the East are still resisting the trend, such as Poland and Lithuania. But soon these countries will also change, as they are forced to accept hundreds of thousands of Sub-Saharans.

One way for leaders to achieve increased control over their citizens would be to introduce a problem then provide a solution. If a majority of 'natives' of a country feel threatened by newcomers and have no realistic alternatives for 'protection' than the state, that's what they will choose. This could take the form of increased surveillance of society generally and an increase in the number and capabilities of state sponsored paramilitary assets.

I wonder if this is not one of the main driving forces behind the push to control guns in private hands here in the U.S. The more people feel confident that they can protect themselves, the less inclined they are to rely on the state for various kinds of protection.

As best I can tell from afar (sitting here on the West coast of the U.S.) it seems that Western Europe is a lot farther along the path to centralization and that planning and directing these population movements is handled mostly from Brussels. It's an interesting thing to watch. I'll be paying closer attention to the phenomenon.

You are both right, not that I am conspiracy theorist but this smells way too bad. Also good for BRIC countries to have sane leaders, future is theirs.

Today, Hungary closed down its border indefinitely for all undocumented visitors (European asylum policy was suspended). Last year country of 10 million in eastern Europe had to accept and feed 43 000 "refugees" (one refugee cost tax payer 1500 euro/month to sustain, "refugees" dont work). Earlier in june Austria stopped processing all new asylum demands. Federal states of Germany effectively restarted controls at borders.

Shengen is dying and rightfully so. EUs policy endangered citizens it was supposed to protect in the very first place. Even I am suprised how quickly this escalates.

In other news: Austria, Serbia and Hungary started shared border control on Serbian-Macedonian border. Every day 1000 new "refugees" try to cross it. Sustaining even one in EU compliant way costs tax payer 1500 euro/month.