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I like the site but then provably fair is NOT fair. As NLNico mentioned in another thread:

Quote from: NLNico on May 28, 2015, 09:51:46 AM

3 ) some others do not allow you to change your client seed so they force a client seed that makes the result known to them even before you bet.

Thats you. What happens on your site is that I pick a client seed, press randomize. The seed gets sent to you and you can set a new server seed depending on my client seed, so you can actually affect if I win or not!

The proper way to implement this would be to allow the player to change the client seed WITHOUT changing the server seed.

Otherwise great site.

Hi!

Hypothetically, we can affect your game result, but only in case we know exactly how you bet and play. But as far as it's too complicated to fulfil (as we can't read other people mind) we just don't use the scheme you suggested. Also, there is a verification code on the bet page so you could verify any bet on your own.

this is bullshit. It is very easy for you to allow the user to change the client seed, i dont see a reason not to, apart from the fact that you want to scam users.

As it is now, your site is NOT PROVABLY FAIR.

Seriously, this is how it works and we are not the one platform based on this method.

This is actually false, gmann is correct, you need to allow the player to change the seed without changing the server seed, otherwise you are not provably fair.

I don't know what the big deal is to be honest, it doesn't fundamentally affect your system so why not allow it?

We used the same architecture as lots of other top casino, it's not that easy to be changed, you know.
However, if you have ideas which way Cryptogames can use this - please explain, as we truly can't understand why this is considered as unfair.

If a player bets a certain way, you can create a client seed and server seed to make him lose more often than he should. Obviously this doesn't make sense with the smaller players, however, high rollers should be careful with your site, as the motivation to unethically manipulate even a small portion of their bets is there.

I'm not saying you do this, but it's not 100% provably fair.

As for using 'the same architecture as lots of other top casino', show me ONE top casino that does this.