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Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on July 01, 2015, 05:51:23 AM

Demons trying to get people to sin and worship false gods.

Can your compile us a list of all these false Gods please? I want to be sure to avoid them.
Please answer in your own words and directly as possible. Thanks.

Anyone or anything that is not the true God of the bible /Jesus should not be worshiped or placed in higher respect than God/Jesus.

How have you come to that conclusion? Give me an example; let's say the Islamic God Allah. How have you concluded this one is false?

Because I believe Jesus Christ is the savior.

Exodus 20:3 "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." An example would be people worshiping other things/people over God, feeling that they can protect you better than God. Like caring about having enough money, versus having faith that God will provide.

Quote from: cryptodevil on July 01, 2015, 08:47:14 AM

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on June 30, 2015, 02:40:20 PM

No, I'm not interested in considering I'm wrong.

I'm always interested in considering that I may be wrong. It is reassuring when one's continued questioning and study of new data and reasoning continues to lead one back to supporting the proposition that there is no evidence, no need, for a 'god' in this Universe and that those who believe such are provably employing intellectually dishonest reasoning to support their false argument.

If, however, things were to change and there was a whole new set of data I could incorporate into my understanding, such that I needed to modify my position substantially, I would always be open to doing so.

You are not. You have decided that your own subjective wishing and active confirmation bias is enough and all the myriad of contradictions and conflicts can just be swept under the carpet . . . because god. No thanks, I prefer not to have to make my subconscious mind continually wrestle with cognitive dissonance, it isn't healthy.

I already considered if I was wrong or not. You just omitted that before responding to that quote. I asked if He existed and found I believed He did. As I've grown over the years, I've seen example after example of proof. You would think I was stupid to stop believing in something once I had proof that it was true. I don't have cognitive dissonance; actually as I go, I find things make more and more sense.

Quote from: cryptodevil on July 01, 2015, 08:47:14 AM

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on June 30, 2015, 02:40:20 PM

Atheists aren't much better, in not wanting to consider God exists, they found their answer a long time ago too.

I think you'll find that atheists are actually considerably more qualified in the balance of consideration for your claims for god than you. Your assertions are simply, "He does because . . .[insert logical fallacy here]". We're not afraid of the answers to the questions we ask. You are, that's why you have no intellectual integrity and your world is constructed from 'woo'. Careful, it's not a particularly reliable building material, it is prone to crumbling when analysed by objective reasoning.

I'm not afraid. I've been answering your questions, and explaining away things you call inconsistencies.

Quote from: cryptodevil on July 01, 2015, 08:47:14 AM

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on June 30, 2015, 02:40:20 PM

How does it feel to you to know that you are someone who doesn't want to understand life properly? To ignore what's really going on? Wink

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See, that's the thing, the moment I stopped looking for 'The Supernatural' I stopped seeing it, everywhere.

You, unfortunately, will dishonestly take that to mean I closed my eyes to the 'wonder of woo' when, the fact of the matter is, I simply stopped projecting my faulty assumptions and preconceived perceptions onto ordinary situations. When I began to practice intellectual honesty in order to more reliable understand Life, The Universe and Everything, I found that there were understandable answers for everything and none of it required invoking 'woo' and, in fact, 'woo' was clearly found to be one of the root causes of cognitive dissonance and confusion as, much like the Bible is chock-full of contradictions and conflicts, what with it being not one story but a collection of stories selected for inclusion by a group of men many centuries after the myths concerned were written, the introduction of 'woo' to try and explain anything simply becomes an infantile conflicting game of, "Because I say so!", rather than a route towards actual knowledge of The Universe.

3 out of 4 Americans believe in the paranormal in some way? (2005 Study)

You'll probably love this one that shows belief in God declining (not surprising to me, as I've pointed out), but it clearly shows belief in paranormal experiences is increasing and it's more recent than the other link (2013 study)

If science explains everything so perfectly, why is there an increasing belief in paranormal things?

Quote from: cryptodevil on July 01, 2015, 08:47:14 AM

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on June 30, 2015, 02:40:20 PM

The bible is a wonderful guide on how to act.

My goodness, I take it you haven't actually read the damn thing, then? Do you even know the origins of that absurd publication?

Just so I know where you stand, do I turn the other cheek or is it 'an eye for an eye'?

Yes, I've read it all, except Psalms, which I'm currently reading. The OT rules were washed away when Jesus came, and we are now supposed to forgive others to receive forgiveness for our sins.