Quote from: zyk on September 10, 2012, 09:07:41 AM

Quote from: Micon on September 10, 2012, 04:44:31 AM

Quote from: JoelKatz on September 10, 2012, 02:51:30 AM

Quote from: OneEyed on September 09, 2012, 09:19:59 PM

On the side note, although Matthew scammed many people with his "bet", he didn't receive one satoshi out of it, so the damages are limited. But discussing this would be clearly off-topic here.

I didn't receive one Satoshi from Pirate's scam, does it follow that the damages are limited? Yes, Matthew made no profit from the damage he did. How does that show the damages are limited?

deliberately mis-managing another human's expectations about money makes a negative emotional impact on the victims. This is what Matt did, this is what Pirate did, this is what Vescudero is doing. Mis-managing expectations of many others in order for himself to profit greatly.

This is all too right.....and even formulated way to softly, how damaging it is for community spirit and the wherewithall of Bitcon !

But : To remind you of the late Sir Alan Greenspan : Bubbles ( ponzis ) are not recognizable in advance, they got to be cleaned up afterwards !

Of course in FIAT world this is a blatant lie, but it applies to bitcoin.

Where are the efforts of the great Moderators of this forum to put scammer - tags on the PPT -operators, who are still "mismanaging human´s expectations"

helping to hide the ill - gotten interest of the ponzi -scams ? May I deduce that everybody watches out for the next one?...the same as false accusations have

no consequences and are greeted as evidence.....even if its just based on the limited ability to percieve the facts and the inability of nearly all the Super - Egos

to backpaddle, when getting their head handed back to them.

And so, as i love to put perceptions in the realm of reality, nobody is perfect Wink

, would you mind, Sir Micon, to put up for otoh´s bet ?

Vescudero was (is) a useful service for me, as I earned his weekly interest in 15 min. after I took out a loan.

Thought of you as a bastion of honor or is your "justice" the last air-bag protecting the heroscammers of legitimate competition ?

Thanks Zyk

P.S. As long as i can´t see the same clean- up efforts made to prosecute the big profiteers as have been shown for MNW......

bitcoin.org is a typical case of frying the small - fish and let the bigo(tt)nes going on scott -free.....

Me too can´t stand your bigotterie and ingorance anymore Sir Micon !

As there are still no tags for false accusations neither for outright lies, I dare you to offer again otoh´s bet,

Quote from: zyk on September 09, 2012, 01:10:30 PM

I accept the bet , if we use Victor as escrow Wink

Quote from: BCB on September 09, 2012, 01:06:45 AM

Don't mess with bitcoin.

an excuse to Victor Vescudero

or just cancel him and put payb.tc at his place, as this guy is still running his own ponzi scheme hiding behind pirates default !!!

Quote from: Otoh on September 09, 2012, 01:31:17 PM

@zyk lol

I propose these terms if anyone is interested, personally I choose to leave my funds with Victor but choose not to enter in to any bets, but I would be happy to act as an escrow if anyone wished though.

Vescudero will not default - bet: Agree xxx BTC

Victor Escudero, Vescudero, will not default on the funds lent to him or on the interest due on them within the next 6 months. Funds covered are those listed in & added to his OP & a default is defined as being over 2 weeks late in paying out any interest or funds due.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=89122.0;all

He may at any time change the rate of interest payed out &/or return any &/or all funds (with interest to date). He may close his offering at any time & if all funds & interest due has been payed then the bet is then classed as over & won.

Event date 2013 03 10
Bet deadline 2013 03 08

Put up or shut up !!

Thanks Zyk