Quote from: neilsolomons on July 05, 2015, 10:19:35 PM

My point is, these aren't facts. At best these are beliefs/views, assumptions & accusations.

There is no dragon in my garage and there are no miners mining for xscrypt. The angry assertions otherwise are from those who have to provide the evidence to support their claims as to the existence of same.

Quote from: neilsolomons on July 05, 2015, 10:19:35 PM

I understand that people want trust in an area that is occasionally has a bad element try and infiltrate it to rob people

Congratulations! You win, "Understatement of the Year!" for that absolute loss of perspective on the realities of 'cloud mining' services in this industry.

Let me give you a clue, it rhymes with, "The majority of cloudmining companies are actually fractional mining/ponzi scams".

Quote from: neilsolomons on July 05, 2015, 10:19:35 PM

but look at this from the business side. Ask a business that your paying money to for a service. now go and ask them that you want to see their bank account balances and so forth.

Except, of course, that isn't the situation at all. What it is, instead, is one whereby a business tells you they are operating a batch of miners you can 'buy contracts' for, except they won't do anything to prove they have the hardware apart from citing the 'numbers on the screen' typical ponzi flags, such as claiming they have made 'payouts' regularly. Really? You dumb enough to accept a dismissal of requests for proof of mining by claiming it is the equivalent of asking to see a company's bank accounts? It isn't anything like asking to see a company's bank accounts.

Here, let me show you:

Quote from: WhiteCodex on July 05, 2015, 06:40:29 PM

you try in any show us as scam, but you can't. This is our promotion and we still pay our sevices and we don't run. So SHUT UP. We give about 5 btc free for bitcointalk users, we never fail one payment. So SHUt UP. Yes, we dont will give any information about our miners, so you think we are scam? get off. As you can see who trust in our services are getting profit. Go to your program that paid for your signature.

Awesome rebuttal. "So SHUT UP", counts as a reasoned counter-assertion now?

BTW, why don't you try reading the actual text of my signature, hell, you can even click through to it if you want. I think you'll find my conscience is clear.

Quote from: WhiteCodex on July 05, 2015, 10:56:43 PM

we can't provide hardware proof, we don't have authorization from our partners to sent their pictures or movies, but them really are live.

No proof, no attempt to get proof, just accept his word.

One small problem, however, it is ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE to show proof of mining without showing the hardware, giving location or any other miner details whatsoever.

Show the freshly-mined block-rewards.

It isn't a difficult issue, it doesn't require any other information be given. There are no excuses for you not doing it.