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Re: [Announcement] Butterfly Labs
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BFL_Josh
on 11/09/2012, 06:40:56 UTC
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If Josh wants to say this is no longer true - fine - but that's what it has been up until now ... so why was it that up until today?
Is it perhaps related to the fact that bASIC has put BFL in a corner? So you've now been forced to change your mind?

... I will also add that if you think to blame your software development woes on me - you really have lost the plot.
Ignore me - send one to ckolivas - tell him he's gonna get one.
I won't kiss ass here to get what I want. I will have my own opinion of what pisses me off and I will make it clear.
If you don't like  that - feel free to put me in a corner and say "bad bad kano - no BFL ASIC for you - you don't kiss ass" Tongue

It was my discussion with you in the threads here that led you to finalising it with saying EasyMiner was the answer, and you directly implying you don't need the free software development.
What has changed since that .... ?

Kano, I don't want to badmouth Tom or his accomplishments but honestly, his offering is not really competitive to our products.  Our price and performance are far superior in every category so it's not really an issue. I'm glad he's putting out his offering to give people a choice though, but in the end, it all comes down to money and profit for the majority of miners, not ideology.  Do you really think $230 is worth losing over 30% of your hashing power and consuming an enormous amount of power in the process?  You might think so, but most people won't.  Heck, you'd probably make up that $230 in the first few months in power savings alone.

But I am, once again, trying to reach out and mend fences but you keep throwing it back in my/BFL's face.

Kissing ass has never been on my agenda.  However, what is on my agenda is a) not blind hatred far exceeding the cause and b) an complete disregard for the fact that I have been trying to make changes for the better with regards to community relations and yes developers are part of that community.

With regards to our discussion, you made a blanket statement that we "needed" (as in, it was a requirement to have mining software and that there was none since no developer would work on it) and I corrected you that we have EasyMiner, so that statement was not true.  Would we like to have cgminer support?  Sure, but is it required?  No, our devices will mine just fine without it.  So nothing has changed since that, we are still in the same position.  We have the backing of basically all the popular miners except (apparently) cgminer... that being the case, why would we want to support a miner that doesn't want to support us?  This is not really a rhetorical question, because I would like to hear your answer to this. For the record, we planned on supporting you/cgminer anyway regardless of what you respond with, but I would like to hear why you think we should support someone who clearly does not want to support us and has only begrudgingly done so up to this point?