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Hello elrippo, thanks for reply.

I do not want to put my money in the hands of anyone else, no more.

Starting a company is not a option, for now is just an idea and want to be just a small group...

What's about a non profit organization (good for taxes and with a real address). 50% for the members/investors (you need a minimum of seven members in germany) and 50% for charity (like SaveTheChildren for example).
Plus some supporters (could be official members, too) from industry (solar-powered mining farm?). Could be a nice idea ... with profit for all and a good reputation without any scam.

Like FIFA

Hopeful not like FIFA Grin

FIFA makes Trillions every year and they basically are paying NO taxes, are tolerated by everyone even sponsors, so that is the same sheme Shocked

The difference between FIFA and HYIPs is: The FIFA-scammers are real persons, greedy and well known. I guess, everyone has his price and I don't even know my own to become greedy. Wink

Ok, I would never scam someone, because I'm too lazy ... and don't need other peoples money. Cool

There is no differnce, cloudminr.io admins/owners are also real people, except that that cloudminr.io admins/owners are not known by the public/us in detail.
In terms of greed they share exactly the same psycholocial pattern Shocked

Ok. I've never invested in FIFA nor know to did so. I have no interests in "Scoccer" or so called "Fußball". I'm not a gambler or sportsman - and sport-bet is for gamblers and luck-hunters only. Wink

That's not my playfield nor my interest. I talked about how to reach xxx% ROI with (BTC-)HYIPs. That's my playground without any greed. Wink

I am neither a soccer fan because of the corrupt structures inside FIFA and UEFA, i am just stating the same possible greed influenced motives with scams like cloudminr.io and so on Wink

Shorting tends to be a very time intensive hobby, but i think you probably know that Grin

Well, we all tend to be greedy, that´s why we all want a ROI above 100% in short timeframes. I know that i am greedy to an assigned value, this does not implicate ripping of people, simply because i am mining with my own hardware -> thats also greed per definition Cheesy

I hope people will investigate prior investing in ANY company or a so called legit company or in a bunch of people who tell you an 140% ROI in the first year, where a calculation with your own hardware gives you an 105% ROI in the first year.
This should be reasonable for 90% out there, that such ROI´s are unrealistic and turn out to be a non legit company over short or long!!!

If you want to invest in hardware, please do so. If you get a bunch of people who share the same thoughts, build a community and calculate, do math, do research, start your own small mining farm in a garage or combine your asics to heat your appartement or your pool so you will benefit from your spent electricity in more ways then only mining coins Shocked