Quote from: dadice_dev on July 09, 2015, 06:15:36 PM

It is very clear that you don't read all of the posts and only jump to what you think are important parts.

I did read all the posts. I didn't reply to them all, but I did reply to too many of them already.

Quote from: dadice_dev on July 09, 2015, 06:15:36 PM

If you did read the entire thread, you would know that leens bet was indeed 9 BTC profit

I do know that. You can tell that I know it because I said it here:

Quote from: dooglus on July 09, 2015, 03:57:02 PM

That shows someone betting 9 BTC at 2x and profiting by 9 BTC

Quote from: dadice_dev on July 09, 2015, 06:15:36 PM

(but in fact profit was way more, due to consecutive wins, but that is NOT the point), the point with that specific roll is MAX. PAYOUT OF 20 BET, and leen being totally aware of it.

This is true, but unimportant. When applying the Kelly criterion, it's the profit that matters, not the payout. That is how Just-Dice was able to offer payouts of 7000 BTC to "mechs" even though the site's bankroll was only 50k BTC. That's over 10% of the bankroll. The reason is that his profit was only around 250 BTC per bet - or 0.5% of the bankroll.

Quote from: dadice_dev on July 09, 2015, 06:15:36 PM

Let us not forget that this thread is a "SCAM Accusation" thread, and the fact that OP has no credebility in his/her claims

OP's credibility doesn't matter when what they say is undisputed. You and she both agree that you are allowing players to profit by more than they should according to the Kelly multipliers the investors have set. You just don't seem to understand why that is a problem yet.

Quote from: dadice_dev on July 09, 2015, 06:15:36 PM

Also: Given the hypothetical situation, that you are trying to make a big deal out of, Player only wins as far as the bankroll exists and is positive. This is a major fuck up in your calculations, if there is no bankroll, there will be nothing to reward player out of. And thus my answer comes back into scene: We will pay as much as we can.

It's hard to follow you sometimes, but I'm trying. The hypothetical situation is "a player wins a lot". Not just one max bet, but a lot of them. It can happen. What does "Player only wins as far as the bankroll exists and is positive" mean? Does the maximum payout depend on the bankroll somehow? I thought you said it doesn't. Do the rolls? I know some sites rig the rolls such that players can't win when the bankroll is too low, but I don't think that's what you're saying here. So what do you intend that bolded quote mean? Maybe that you will shut the site down when the bankroll is less than 20 BTC? But if that was the case why would you be including declaring bankruptcy in your plans? I've tried hard to understand what you're trying to say, but don't get it. And if you could point out my "major fuck up" that would be nice too. I am saying that your fixed maximum payout risks being unable to pay big winners. Am I wrong there?

Quote from: dadice_dev on July 09, 2015, 06:15:36 PM

You definitely have some personal interest with Da Dice but rest assured we don't need your advice when it comes to marketing and commercial policies.

I have no interest in DaDice. I react the same way to any dubious behaviour I see from any site. Don't take it personally. Check my post history and you'll see I'm always nagging at one scammy operation or another. Most recently some "crypto-games.net" site was accidentally offering +EV bets to their players and wouldn't believe it when told about it for example. And scrypt.cc continues to pretend to be mining with 850 GH/s of scrypt hashing power.

Quote from: dadice_dev on July 09, 2015, 06:15:36 PM

I will prefer if you stick to the topic. This entire accusation is based on lie from a whining gambler trying to recover losses.

What's the lie? I've asked, you responded with an attack on me. Maybe you're the one who needs to focus here.

Quote from: dadice_dev on July 09, 2015, 06:15:36 PM

If you are blind enough to see it, let me make it clear for you, Da Dice is a long term investment, we are financing marketing, signature campaigns, and other events, we even hired 3rd party marketing team for this purpose. We want to offer 20 BTC max. payout to our players (note this!), and there are many other things that we do and want to do, none of them should of your concern!

...And we don't need public investments! after the criticism we made it private and we are doing just fine without your advices on how should we run Da Dice.

But you're not, are you. You are offering bets you aren't bankrolled to offer, with the plan of not paying out if anyone wins too many of them.

That isn't just fine. It isn't even acceptable.

Quote from: dadice on July 09, 2015, 06:22:30 PM

Shall I feel pitty for you, silly muppet?

Again with the ad hominem attacks?

Quote from: dadice on July 09, 2015, 06:45:00 PM

The only bad behavior is from the OP. We just defended ourselves.

Not true. You have behaved very rudely and unprofessionally. Most of the personal attacks made in this thread were by you or your 'supporters'. See "silly muppet" one quote up from here...

Quote from: dadice on July 09, 2015, 06:45:00 PM

On the other side, I have decided to halt any campaigns here until further notice, as from tomorrow, since we receive 80% of our business from sites other then btctalk.

At least something good came out of this then. Thank you.