Quote from: Adrian-x on July 15, 2015, 11:09:56 PM

Quote from: Zarathustra on July 15, 2015, 08:03:02 PM

Quote from: justusranvier on July 15, 2015, 07:47:32 PM

Quote from: Zarathustra on July 15, 2015, 07:35:08 PM

mythology

It's ironic the degree to which your superstitions mirror the ones described by Lloyd de Mause in the link I provided.

This is not mythology, this is reality:

Private property rules are always guaranteed by organized violence of the state mafia.

The idea of private property is a meme, it all starts when one can justify denying land to some but not others with the use of a moral code, it is effectively enforced through force, the effectiveness of the meme, is those who are deprived very often understand the meme better than they the natural order of property.

Yes, new 'moral' code enforced through brute force. A post-paleolitic new moral that lead to collectivism via destruction of the nuclear community, the anarchist, self-sufficient life style. From anarchy to patriarchy.

A former 'austrian' who knows better since he studied history as nobody did before:

"Private property as de iure institution needs a foregoing state to come into existence. The state
needs foregoing power and foregoing power needs armed force.
The ultimate foundation of the economy thus is the weapon, where possession and property are identical because the
possession of it guarantees property of it.
Armed force starts additional production (surplus, tribute). The first taxes are contributions of material for the production of attack weapons
(copper, tin). Thus non-circulating money begins. Taxes as census and money are the same."

As soon as defence and protection of the (property-)title power executed by armed force in
war and peace needs mercenaries (soldiers from outside the power system) the one-way-money
turns into circulating genuine money in modern sense and its material changes from weapon-fitting to precious metal
and actually into any material which can be monopolized by the state.
Interest also at first is the tax (census) itself. The state, that must exist before property and
property-based contracts which only can be executed with use of armed force, cant be
financed out of property or income which can only appear after its existence. Therefore the state faces the problem of
pre-financing itself (power, sovereignty) and it must draw on later tributes or taxes.
This interest, which always starts with power-based and never with private titles is nothing but a discount,
thereby rather a discount of the state-owned property (monopoly of armed force)
or property rights (monopoly of taxation) than any private property premium or even an mysterious item that enlarges something."

http://www.miprox.de/Wirtschaft_allgemein/Martin-Symp.pdf