Quote from: TheButterZone on July 17, 2015, 08:41:33 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on July 17, 2015, 02:54:50 PM

Quote from: BurtW on July 17, 2015, 02:22:00 PM

Food for thought: my attorney informed me that they can and sometime do put people in jail until they turn over a password. So in reality your passwords are only as safe as your willingness to spend time in jail over them. After spending 3 days and 2 nights in solitary confinement (in the SHU at the federal detention center) I can tell you that most people will crack in pretty short order. It boring beyond comprehension.

Why were you put in solitary confinement? It was previously speculated that they put you there in order to get you to give up your private keys, but if they found your trezor seed then that would probably not be the case.

I would also think that being forced to give up passwords/encryption private keys would be potentially forcing someone to give up their right to remain silent and provide potentially incriminating evidence against themselves.

The fundamental human rights enumerated in the US Constitution are "just words on paper" for the government to wipe its ass with.

I'm beginning to form a whole new attitude to this "rights" concept. It's a contradiction in terms, essentially. In order to secure these entitlements/expectations, you need also to grant the enforcers permission to violate the underlying principles. This is very easy to subvert from protection into oppression. And it's not possible to use ordinances backed with force to enforce morality, it simply pushes the delinquents to innovate anti-social behaviour for which there are no current rules. The primary entity that can grant you rights is: yourself. You can only carve your entitlements out of the opportunities you take.