Quote from: 0xF6487E on July 14, 2015, 08:25:42 PM

Quote from: BlueYozakuraBTC on July 13, 2015, 05:04:24 AM

I received a high tip on MFC a ways back. It's was about 38000 which is roughly $3800. My cost of living is high because of where I live so I pretty much tried to double it successfully I might add:) Still its
attracts other spenders that want to top the last guy. I was burned out so I didn't take advantage but my "scamscore" put me up to 5000 or something like it. Then I started dropping but I realized for a day I was ranked 77th. That's when it hit me how much the models in the top 100% really make every month.

On naked we used to be able to log in and see what a model made for the week. One was consistently bringing in about 10k a week while I was just glad to pull in $700 a week.

Most of my high tippers wanted to meet in person which honestly I can't blame them for that desire. If you're spending that much the thought will cross your mind.

There was maybe one I thought hmmm what if and then he kept pushing and eventually became a bit nasty so I realized "oh better not get taken too deep into fantasy". He was super cute too. Darn shame. lol

Wait that's chaturbate? Bet that tipper is from MFC. Chaturbate types typically don't spend like that but There have been MFC models that have received 477,760 token drops. I mean yes.

We need bitcoin guys like that ha!

It's posts like these that make me throw up with disgust at modern men and what they would do for a glimpse of some skin. The women aren't to blame, because if there is demand, there will be a supply.

Wait a minute now. If you think this is really about a flash of skin you're missing the bigger picture here. If you really sit back and watch, I mean really watch, most of the tipping has little to do with the women and more to do with how men like to show off in front of other men. Think about your average strip club. Why would someone show up at 2am in a suit? It's not like it was so difficult not to stop home for a quick change right? Alot of this behavior is a signal to other men. "Making it rain?" what's the purpose of that when the guy could have just waited til she got off stage and handed her a wad of cash privately. Point is no one gets to see and " oooh and aaah" at the display of his wealth.

Why do you think traffic is so incredibly important on free chat sites? You can have 99% non tippers but as long as you have an alpha that likes you? You're golden.

Think about how many times you've seen in another country how one man yelled out in a crowd " take her clothes off" and how on autopilot 50 men that hear the "trouble maker" jump into action to start grabbing clothes off of a strange woman?

Another example? A few college guys go out and they're drunk seemingly harmless but one guy shouts "let's break in and steal that Ducati!". Sure one guy will think no way but the rest will egg him on in a " what you scared bro?" In that moment one of the most respectful guys in the group ends up smashing a window only to get caught and later have to explain why he did it.

Sites like MFC and Chaturbate tend to work on mob mentality and not individuality. If one man screams dude she's ugly many will follow along with that assessment even if they secretly disagree.

On MFC I always made more as long as I had an alpha in the room ie the man that thinks for himself which is rare. The rest in general tip if that one person tips high enough to determine your worth like someone has me on some type of auction block.

The minute you loose that one member the rest come in like vultures to pick your bones clean.

Pre-MFC days left each individual to make his or her own choice on what he desired and what he liked. He didn't need others to agree with him and he also didn't need to sit and watch you for 6 hrs a day for months before he actually spent on you.

When I log in on mfc I always know that the first 5 or 8 people that write something in my room are 100% broke. They want attention and jump in the room before you get burned out on the fake compliment.

Hierarchy is another aspect to camming that again wasn't a focus pre-MFC. If you're a model that draws a big enough crowd members will tip a certain amount without asking. Now move down the page and your tips from that same members will be less. The member may like you and enjoy your company but the site crowd has determined you're valued at less than models above.

Even on chaturbate I'll have an appearance of members that are "dark purple" meaning they tipped over 1000 tokens within the last 24 hrs (somewhere else) but they hang out in my room for 5-6hrs not tipping anything". The same member will continue to show up over and over again almost loudly chatting in the room in a "look a me guys I'm a 1000+ tipper daily". Again it has little to do about me and more about him getting the attention of men in the room. He spent the money he planned to spend that day but still wants that "wow look at me" attention. In this case he goes from room to room with his deep purple name tag trying to show models and members alike " I have money". There's a 1% chance he'll ever spend it on you so I tend to block what I consider "the attention whore" after his third visit.

Taking this a step further ... One night a year or so back I had a bunch of member sitting in my room on MFC. Now the attitude was a tad unpleasant as there was someone trying to push for me to do something but obviously had no intention of tipping. The behavior was bully style and I thought hmm what's the deal here? Sure enough I sent a male submissive to beg others to watch his cam. If he could get them to watch then he didn't have to continue to tip me. Now I was thinking "haah it will never happen, he'll have to continue to tip me yah! Sure enough I pop in his " viewer cam feed" and notice that he has more men watching him play with himself than there are men watching me in my room. Yes mind=blown.

If you look at sites like Chaturbate and Cam4 you'll notice that women on both of these sites where there are male cam models do worst than when there aren't male cam models to watch. Male cam models tend to do incredibly well on these sites and are tipped in many cases fully clothed. Female models on these sites tend to do more extreme shows in order to receive very small tips. Gapping holes anal /dp /vomit/urine/poop etc.

My point is the average modern man may like women but from my 5 year view of camming he's way more interested in other men.

The reason I know this for a fact is that when I sign in some nights the comment that comes out is " why aren't there more people in your room or where are all of the members?" That man will pop in and out and then right when the room gets full he start demanding almost hysterically that I go private with him. Obviously he could have taken me private 4 hours prior but all of a sudden he just has to have me after the crowd of " ooh my cock blah blah " gets posted over and over again.

The direct " I know what I want" type is incredibly rare. He comes in chats and is ready to go private and doesn't need the masses to agree with what he wants to do with his own body. Very rare indeed.

This is also why you'll see models on private sites (like SM aka Streamate ) that even with a 35% take in they still make more money than the average MFC or chaturbate model. Again this is because it's mostly about what the individual wants and not what the group says someone should want. The site has gold shows but many models don't even use it because it's alot of work for a low payout. There will always be that one guy that thinks he should direct an entire show for his $1 buy in when there are 99 other people that tipped to get in.

The average spender on a free chat show cam site spends no more than $20 -$50 per model but will be on the site for close to 4-16 hrs in a day. On a site like chaturbate? It's more like no more than $.50-5.00. So you'll continue to see these mega tips as long as you don't want to take a model private , have the fun you want and then leave. You have to think that members that can spend like that want men that can't afford it to talk about it. He's probably secretly getting rock hard off of the attention. You're also bringing the model traffic because everyone will want to figure out "Who is this woman that this man tipped 7k to". So you're keeping the business flowing exactly the way they want it too.

I mean don't people get the whole Kardashian super status? Sex tape and insta-stardom? The more people talk about you the more people will be interested in getting to find out more about you. This is the golden rule in business that requires "viewers, clicks,traffic".

So before you start pounding your fist in a " how dare he do this for her" think about what you spend on sites and how much you actually get to see without spending a dime. Then think about the average amount models really make and then you'll realize that how members tip is part of what creates the several thousand dollar tipper. For me as a model that one tipper can actually change your life dramatically to the point you're actually saying "this man just took care of my survival concerns in one swoop". Cost of living and comfort is major. When someone can do that you're beyond grateful. On the same token when someone pops in and tips 1 token and then demands things you're thinking " Did this guy really just tip me 5 pennies?" Like I can't even buy 1 piece of gum for that but now I'm supposed to show nudity for 5 pennies? Yes you're really sitting there with this painful expression on your face like someone stabbed you with a dull blade. Models are grateful for all tips but the bare minimum on MFC used to give an alert that said something on the order of please tip more as not to insult the model.