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Personally I am expecting the worst out of them. I had some trades mysteriously close during the so called "crash" that should have stayed open even if the price went to 0, even had buy limits canceled for no reason that should have been filled. I have tried transferring out of my MT4 account to get my remaining funds out of that thieves den, but of course that does not work either. Three days later no support response back on my ticket and now the site is down.

yes that happened to me as well, I should have made printscreen, but what I can do with them??? send them to non responding support? Huh

I will just move all my funds away... hopefully soon. As I wrote, they let you make several USD profit but when you want to multiply your strategy they stopp to execute your trade. Simple "Off quotes" error message. or lost connection. And you can ****************** And of course after you got into loss suddenly everything is smooth.... But when you try simoultaneously (eg manually at the same time ) made the same trade with 0.01 everything is OK..... what to say more?

I opened several 5.00 lot buy positions on BTCe MT4 (open a trade was quick and easy) but problem was that it was made by much worse price and the worst of all was closing - you couldnot close it partially, you couldnot close it by changing SL or TP - price was going up and down and my SL and TP field in MT4 got yellow but was not respected. (= so it could close my trade 30 USD away from SL and I wouldnot do anything with this.... you know support if even bother to answer you can tell you anything... perhaps you already trade somewhere MT4 bucketshop )
I tried to open a small 0.05 lot of their CFD or whatever it is, and close this small position and it was smooth. But anything biger like 1.0 or even 5.0 lot position was frozen.... after about 1 hour since that drop it started to closing my position by small parts (Partially by 0.01 or 0.05 etc !!!! and of course cca 5 USD away from SL or TP} and all that pain was finished during another hour.

I thought I made a fortune but in the end it was loss for me. Never more.
I could summartize it, I can change a bit that sentence sadi by Henry Ford: You can close your trade/ position anytime if you are in a loss. (other wise you get "off quotes message") really funny but not for me.

Bitfinex is better for leverage trading. Problems are bigger fees. But forget 796 if you dont have good robot. 796 is worst of all cause they have "AOC" and this funny thing close your position once you get to the certain % of loss (even if you have enough BTC on your margin account) and than it takes all your money involved in a margin trade not only the part of money which you risk. This is insane. If you trade eg 1 BTC dont tell me that they cannot find counterparty for only 1 c o c k sucking BTC....
of course problem is as you surely know, that price isnot continual/smooth (I mean price goes in thresholds, it could be 277, 278, 279 per 1 BTC and not anything between because counterparty just want to execute only at certain level... and the whole funny issue is that on 796 price is like $280 per BTC but of course sudenly it could flash within a second to $300 on the buy or sell side and the whole funny thing is that at $280 you are in a loss like 30% which is OK, but with that sudden flash you got over that sucking % set by 796 for that current week and despite price goes immediately down to $280, the c o c ksucking 796 takes ALL YOUR MONEY INVOLVED. Everybody with more than 1 braincell in their head called it daylight robbery, but 796 call it AOC .....)

perhaps the only solution of this is not to trade on leverage but 1:1. But why I would do it for their high fees??? I could trade 1:1 directly without fees on much more trusted places like Bitstamp much more comfortably where price respects other exchanges and dont make dips +-20 USD in a second...
I thought 796 could be a place where you can try to profit from some certain movements but I warn you - on 796 the price is totally different with sudden big thresholds so its impossible to trade on high leverage movements like last weeks monday cause they look totally different on 796 and your position would be very probably sudenly closed. In case you dont have a robot which can with a fraction of a second evaluate how deep you are in a loss and accomodate the position... But again... who knows whether 796 doesnot segregate clients as well and maybe if you have big position you got "off quotes" as well despite you have clever robot....

Problem is they change that % how deep it allows you to go in a loss regularly .... their price is totally different from exchanges (sometimes +20 usd up sometimes down....) I incurred a big loss after a few succesful trades and unfortunately I didnot find good platform for trading 796 (their web pages is insufficient only a fool could trade on high leverage throgh 796 webpage)

my advice is.. forget on leverage and trade 1:1 on well known exchange, maybe with reliable robot, if you want to sleep and not sit in front of screen every night

You are talking about a lot of things here but why would they mess up with your trades? What do they win by doing that? Absolutely nothing as far as i understand it. I have been using btc-e for over a year now and i have never had any problems with them, everything is always smooth, the only problem recently is the frequent ddos but you cant really do much about it.

If there is collusion going on, they would cancel open orders to make way for an insider to push the stops at critical resistance points, inducing a leveraged sell off, where that same insider buys back at a deep discount. There is plenty of reasons for them to mess with the open orders if they have no ethics and interested only in maximizing short-term profits.

We don't know if that is indeed what happened, but if it is, the community needs to know about it. And/or some people go to jail.

Does anyone really posses any kind of evidence for that? Because all i see is speculation and accusations without much proof or none. Cryptsy as an example used to be really inconsistent and probably still is when it comes to orders, most of the times your orders werent canceled on time or you wouldnt get your money back fast enough, as i said i never had problems with btc-e and i have been trading recently more than 0.5 bitcoins per trade.

The hard number right now is the volume on the day of the crash.

The volume does not justify a crash to that level. How that happened needs to be investigated, and the truth come out.

If it was a glitch, so be it. If it was collusion, we damn well should know. What / how were the open orders cancelled without the users consent reported on this forum? We need to know. BTC-E owes the community a detailed explanation.