Quote from: 4Grinz.com on July 24, 2015, 05:49:56 AM

Provably fair systems are open source,

Most provably fair sites are closed source. Some aren't. The openness of the source isn't related to whether the events are generated in a provably fair way or not.

Quote from: 4Grinz.com on July 24, 2015, 05:49:56 AM

which puts players and their computers at great risk -

Is that why Linux is so much less secure that Windows? Oh, wait.

Quote from: 4Grinz.com on July 24, 2015, 05:49:56 AM

especially today.

What happened today?

Quote from: 4Grinz.com on July 24, 2015, 05:49:56 AM

If it's not the best implementation, or even a great implementation, then why are we arguing this?

Try to keep up. You said that it was impossible to make a provably fair slots game, so I proved you wrong by showing you a working example of one. You said it many times, even after I posted the link to that one.

Quote from: 4Grinz.com on July 24, 2015, 05:49:56 AM

The process is disturbing. It pulls data from a player's browser and computer each and every spin. In also puts the burden on the player.

Sigh. It was showing you (and mostly everyone else) that you were wrong. Their choice of provably fair system is poor, but that isn't what we were discussing. You claimed it was impossible so I showed you that it isn't.

Quote from: 4Grinz.com on July 24, 2015, 06:02:36 AM

If you choose not to play on our site, then vote with your web wallet.

I already did.

Quote from: 4Grinz.com on July 24, 2015, 06:02:36 AM

If you wish to disparage us because we don't use a dice system to measure the fairness of slots, then expect a swift response.

"dice system"? What are you talking about. Provable fairness is unrelated to dice. It applies to any single-player game of chance, including slots, as I have already pointed out many times. You are really bad at arguing.

Quote from: 4Grinz.com on July 24, 2015, 06:02:36 AM

If you'd like to discuss scam sites, then please do so on another thread. This is our official thread meant to answer our player's questions, update them on contest results, and make promotional announcements.

We have gone out of our way to explain that Provably Fair systems were used during initial testing, and they were ineffective when applied to a slots scenario, and for several security reasons, we do not subject our software and platform to systems that put our security and that of our players at risk.

You still don't seem to understand the point of provable fairness. The point is that the casino can prove *to the player* that each and every game event was fairly determined. What you seem to have is some figure in authority which you claim has proved to themselves that your games are fair. That proves nothing to the player, since you could be lying about them having looked at your games, and they could be lying about your games being fair. You could also have changed your games since they looked at them, or change them just for your biggest bettors.

Provable fairness is something that happens while players play, to satisfy the players. It isn't a process you do in secret with some company who gives you a stamp of approval. The difference between these two is the word "proof". (Look it up).

I think the point has been hammered home enough times by now that if you don't understand then you never will, so I guess I'll leave it at that.