Quote from: child_harold on July 25, 2015, 01:30:30 AM

I love this coin for the tech. CN leader IMO.
BUT we have a problem. Monero keep bashing bytecoin by making unproven accusations re blockchain and premine.
The dignified silence approach may not pan out. What can be proven re 2012?
In good fauth.

How can we shut them up?

p.s. they (Monero) call me a troll blah blah dont care. I want the truth.

The only way Monero's accusations make sense is if the CN Team is "in on it". Nobody can be trusted in CN except for XMR is the position XMR hold.

@child_harold, I respect your attempt to get to the bottom of the BCN & CN backstory, and I suspect you might be genuine. What you mention above became the issue that swayed me towards believing BCN is indeed a well thought out but botched mega scam, and that's what made me sell all my BCN and buy XMR.

The reason is simple. Do a thought experiment; imagine someone accuses you of committing a horrible crime (pedophile, rapist, murderer) and they're doing it publicly. If you were innocent you would want to defend yourself, and you would counter the accusations against you with evidence that proved, or at least suggested strongly, that you didn't commit the crime. You have all the resources available as your accuser (i.e. it's not like Rupert Murdoch vs Jo Six-pack played out unfairly in the mass media, but two equally matched opponents on a forum). If you had evidence to clear yourself would you produce it? Of course you would!!!

I waited for a good number of months thinking the XMR conspiracy theory sounded too far fetched, and while I didn't exactly dig into the details like you have, I did appreciate the basic accusation immediately - BCN was launched a lot later than 2012 and was ninja mined to 80% dishonestly with a fabricated blockchain. At first I assumed BCN would produce some evidence that indicated the coin was launched when they said it was. When that didn't come I was truly shocked, but not straight away, and that's part of the scam. BCN people are hoping that eventually we'll all stop talking about it, and new crypto users wont know the full story. Human history is full of such 'rehabilitation' events (how did the famous philosopher , Martin Heidegger, ever get rehabilitated in the 1950's after his blatant Nazi past during the 1930's? - answer, he never spoke of it publicly himself, and later generations of people focused on his work, which was top-notch, just like the CN and BCN scammers).

The BCN devs are doing the same thing as martin heidegger, avoiding the topic, because the scam is true, and there's a good chance people will forget in 2-5 years time and they might get away with it still. That's why I support your efforts - keep it up!!